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SecularFuture · 03-02-2003, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Evangelion
Wow.

That's an astonishingly low number. Small wonder you guys feel victimised. I'd feel the same way if I was in your position.

And no, I am not having a lend of you. I genuinely sympathise with your situation.

The conventional usually outnumbers the unconventional.

And not everyone has the mind power to be a freethinker either.

Think about it! What is easier? To believe in a supernatural superhero, or to believe in macroevolution and big bang cosmology?

Evangelion · 03-03-2003, 08:26 AM

Oooh! Good point!

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The conventional usually outnumbers the unconventional. And not everyone has the mind power to be a freethinker either.

LOL, especially in America...

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Think about it! What is easier? To believe in a supernatural superhero, or to believe in macroevolution and big bang cosmology?

I see your point. The latter is vastly more difficult to believe, obviously.

Thanks for making that so clear.

Mageth · 03-03-2003, 09:06 AM

Think about it! What is easier? To believe in a supernatural superhero, or to believe in macroevolution and big bang cosmology?

Not really a valid question; after all, one could both believe in the supernatural and accept big bang + evolution as scientifically valid mechanisms (or theories) that explain what we see in the physical universe.

admice · 03-03-2003, 10:20 AM

Emailing or contacting your congressperson is the most effective way. Many will only consider contact from constituents and online petitions, unless they are checked for duplicate or illegitmate signatures, are frequently disregarded.

RufusAtticus · 03-03-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by SecularFuture
Think about it! What is easier? To believe in a supernatural superhero, or to believe in macroevolution and big bang cosmology?

Actually its easier to believe in superheros because of cultural conditioning.

Of course this obsures the fact theists were probably more important in developing modern biology than atheists. Remebmer it was a devout orthodox christian who wrote: "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."

Melkor · 03-03-2003, 12:48 PM

I just read that quote of text about the proposed Amendment like so:

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American Family Association is joining others in an effort to pass a Constitutional Amendment which will effectively nullify a significant portion of the First Amendment, pointlessly protecting the currently unconstitutional Pledge of Allegiance and our exclusionary national motto, "In God We Trust." This proposed Constitutional Amendment is sponsored in the House (H.J. Res 108) by Rep. Chip Pickering and in the Senate (S.J. Res 43) by Senator Trent Lott. It will protect our Pledge of Allegiance and national motto, and will prohibit judges from declaring them illegal, and it will put those immoral atheists in their place.

wildernesse · 03-03-2003, 01:09 PM

Ok, now, we can't let all the blame lie on Chip Pickering. Here is a list of H.J.Resolution 108's cosponsors.

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Rep Armey, Richard K. - 9/19/2002 [TX-26]
Rep Ballenger, Cass - 9/9/2002 [NC-10]
Rep Barton, Joe - 9/9/2002 [TX-6]
Rep Brady, Kevin - 7/25/2002 [TX-8]
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. - 7/25/2002 [SC-1]
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore - 7/25/2002 [WV-2]
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. - 9/9/2002 [VA-5]
Rep Hayes, Robin - 7/25/2002 [NC-8]
Rep Isakson, Johnny - 9/17/2002 [GA-6]
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. - 10/1/2002 [NC-3]
Rep Kerns, Brian D. - 9/9/2002 [IN-7]
Rep McNulty, Michael R. - 9/17/2002 [NY-21]
Rep Norwood, Charlie - 7/25/2002 [GA-10]
Rep Oxley, Michael G. - 7/25/2002 [OH-4]
Rep Phelps, David D. - 9/17/2002 [IL-19]
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. - 7/25/2002 [PA-16]
Rep Riley, Bob - 9/25/2002 [AL-3]
Rep Ryun, Jim - 9/10/2002 [KS-2]
Rep Shadegg, John B. - 9/19/2002 [AZ-4]
Rep Shuster, Bill - 9/9/2002 [PA-9]
Rep Souder, Mark E. - 9/17/2002 [IN-4]
Rep Thune, John R. - 7/25/2002 [SD]
Rep Turner, Jim - 10/1/2002 [TX-2]
Rep Wamp, Zach - 7/25/2002 [TN-3]
Rep Watts, J. C., Jr. - 7/25/2002 [OK-4]

--tibac

James Hamlin · 03-03-2003, 08:52 PM

When does the 9th circuit court's decision go into effect?

Toto · 03-03-2003, 09:12 PM

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When does the 9th circuit court's decision go into effect?

It will go into effect next Monday (Mar 10) unless it is stayed. The school district has asked for a stay while they appeal to the Supreme Court

James Hamlin · 03-03-2003, 09:19 PM

And it is in all states under the courts jurisdiction, not just the school district, correct?

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Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Think about it! What is easier? To believe in a supernatural superhero, or to believe in macroevolution and big bang cosmology? Not really a valid question; after all, one could both believe in the supernatural and accept big bang + evolution as scientifically valid mechanisms (or theories) that explain what we see in the physical universe.

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admice Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S Cal Posts: 327	Emailing or contacting your congressperson is the most effective way. Many will only consider contact from constituents and online petitions, unless they are checked for duplicate or illegitmate signatures, are frequently disregarded.

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James Hamlin Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 155	When does the 9th circuit court's decision go into effect?

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James Hamlin Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 155	And it is in all states under the courts jurisdiction, not just the school district, correct?

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