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liquid · 01-24-2002, 06:27 AM

Keep the ideas coming - if anything happens, it'll be in the summer when I am free of studies. I'll post ideas on a website (not here, because its far too public). I might do a couple of chapters or a synopsis for fun, and then see if it is worth continuing.

liquid · 01-24-2002, 06:29 AM

Keep the ideas coming - if anything happens, it'll be in the summer when I am free of studies. I'll post ideas on a website (not here, because its far too public). I might do a couple of chapters or a synopsis for fun, and then see if it is worth continuing.

hyzer · 01-24-2002, 07:04 AM

How will you approach spelling?

Wiil you have alot of mispelt words?

(my software won't even let me type 'alot', it keeps inserting a space!, I had to remove the space after I pasted my message into the "post a reply" box.

Nialler · 01-24-2002, 07:05 AM

It would damage evolution as much - if not more - as it would damage creationism.

They would merely create a huge fuss about it, pointing out that the deception was typical of evil fraudsters who were trying to foist a fraudulent science on the world's children, and for the first time they would have a hard example to show to the waiverers.

I abhor any risk of damage to science's credibility.

MOJO-JOJO · 01-24-2002, 07:43 AM

It should be really easy to do for the following reasons;

1) All your references will be to Bible passages.
2) You won't need to have it peer reviewed.
3) No scientific support is necessary. The underlying premise for the entire book can be "The Bible tells us..." and "With God, all things are possible."
4) You get to make stuff up out of thin air like "I think God put those dinosaur bones in the sediment to give us something to play with." <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> (actually said to me once)
5) You'll make a mint since xians love buying books that reinforce the fairy tale they believe.

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: MOJO-JOJO ]

ex-robot · 01-24-2002, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by Pandora:
Sounds like a good idea.

I don’t know how difficult it would be to get it published, but to become an acclaimed “expert” in Creationism seems pretty easy to me. You just have to fork out a few thousand dollars and a few weeks work for your doctorate.

Which universities? Harvard, Berkley, UCLA, Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, Switzerland, Brown U.??? I just read a few of the schools from ICR's list. It doesn't make much sense to me to make blanket statements (sometimes sarcastic like this instance) about scientists who believe in creation when it only applies to an extremely small minority. (I don't know if you can count them on ten fingers.)

faded_Glory · 01-24-2002, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquid:
That's good advice Faded! After all, the mighty LORD may well smite me for my arrogance and deceit.

I was more concerned that you might be remembered as a real creationist for all of posterity

fG

Atheist121 · 01-24-2002, 04:38 PM

Heh, I had that same idea. Just write a bunch of crap in a book, make it sound scientific, and make a bunch of statements praising Jesus and the Bible. Presto! Then, after it gets acclaim by the Creationist community (especially ICR or AiG), admit you're really an evolutionist and have a book that refutes the first book already written and ready to be published. I wonder how many Creationists who read and loved the first book would touch the second?

CodeMason · 01-24-2002, 05:11 PM

Great minds think alike! I've also wanted to do something like this for easy cash, but I've never been unethical enough to actually do it. Writing like a fundy makes me sick.

All you have to do is come up with some crazy new idea and have it central to the book, and include a bunch of the usual claptrap as fillers. The crazy new idea can be anything as long as it sounds mathematical. They'll eat it up with a spoon (ala Dembski, ReMine, Behe, etc.)

Icky · 01-24-2002, 07:49 PM

Let's think up some good names that will really help it sell.

1. Darwin's Mistress's Black Box (a la Behe)
2. Eve's Boobs and Adam's Balls (a la Gould)
3. The Genesis Covenant (a la Ludlum)
4. Bag of Fake Fossil Bones (a la King)

01-24-2002, 07:43 AM	#15
MOJO-JOJO Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nashville, USA Posts: 949	It should be really easy to do for the following reasons; 1) All your references will be to Bible passages. 2) You won't need to have it peer reviewed. 3) No scientific support is necessary. The underlying premise for the entire book can be "The Bible tells us..." and "With God, all things are possible." 4) You get to make stuff up out of thin air like "I think God put those dinosaur bones in the sediment to give us something to play with." <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" /> (actually said to me once) 5) You'll make a mint since xians love buying books that reinforce the fairy tale they believe. [ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: MOJO-JOJO ]</p>

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01-24-2002, 06:27 AM	#11
liquid Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,440	Keep the ideas coming - if anything happens, it'll be in the summer when I am free of studies. I'll post ideas on a website (not here, because its far too public). I might do a couple of chapters or a synopsis for fun, and then see if it is worth continuing.

01-24-2002, 06:29 AM	#12
liquid Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,440	Keep the ideas coming - if anything happens, it'll be in the summer when I am free of studies. I'll post ideas on a website (not here, because its far too public). I might do a couple of chapters or a synopsis for fun, and then see if it is worth continuing.

01-24-2002, 07:04 AM	#13
hyzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: philadelphia Posts: 1,844	How will you approach spelling? Wiil you have alot of mispelt words? (my software won't even let me type 'alot', it keeps inserting a space!, I had to remove the space after I pasted my message into the "post a reply" box.

01-24-2002, 07:05 AM	#14
Nialler Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Paris Posts: 8,473	It would damage evolution as much - if not more - as it would damage creationism. They would merely create a huge fuss about it, pointing out that the deception was typical of evil fraudsters who were trying to foist a fraudulent science on the world's children, and for the first time they would have a hard example to show to the waiverers. I abhor any risk of damage to science's credibility.

01-24-2002, 04:38 PM	#18
Atheist121 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 292	Heh, I had that same idea. Just write a bunch of crap in a book, make it sound scientific, and make a bunch of statements praising Jesus and the Bible. Presto! Then, after it gets acclaim by the Creationist community (especially ICR or AiG), admit you're really an evolutionist and have a book that refutes the first book already written and ready to be published. I wonder how many Creationists who read and loved the first book would touch the second?

01-24-2002, 05:11 PM	#19
CodeMason Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 226	Great minds think alike! I've also wanted to do something like this for easy cash, but I've never been unethical enough to actually do it. Writing like a fundy makes me sick. All you have to do is come up with some crazy new idea and have it central to the book, and include a bunch of the usual claptrap as fillers. The crazy new idea can be anything as long as it sounds mathematical. They'll eat it up with a spoon (ala Dembski, ReMine, Behe, etc.)

01-24-2002, 07:49 PM	#20
Icky Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Bangkok & Hong Kong Posts: 55	Let's think up some good names that will really help it sell. 1. Darwin's Mistress's Black Box (a la Behe) 2. Eve's Boobs and Adam's Balls (a la Gould) 3. The Genesis Covenant (a la Ludlum) 4. Bag of Fake Fossil Bones (a la King)

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