Calzaer

It can't be unBiblical. They chose the Bible, for goodness sake. And, once again, the Bible was NEVER meant to be the sole source of divine revelation. Which is why Protestantism is so completely useless when it comes to distilling answers.

Radcliffe Emerson

You miss the point. The only reason some attack the Catholic Church as false and unbiblical now is because Christianity in general is false. All relgion is made up by humans, not a shred of truth in it.
There is no divine creator at all, and all of this is nonsense.
Yet, every single Christian sect out there thinks they are the only ones who have the right idea.

Amos

Well of course Christianity is false because there can be no such thing as a Christian religion. Religion in Christendom, yes, but not a Christian religion because Christian-ity is the condition of being that is achieved at the end of religion. When this end is found religion must be left behind or we would take up ourselves the yoke of slavery for a second time (Gal.5:1).

Magus55

Your arrogance amuses me... its amazing how you know for a fact that no creator exists, that existence of a diety is impossible.

BioBeing

And your arrogance (that God exists, and loves you) is ... what?

SpaceMonkey

What are the premisses! This stuff is facinating.

I didn't realise there was so much animosity between the two faiths.

Stephen T-B

(They used to burn each other.
Now they just shout and stamp their feet.
Progress of sorts, I suppose.)

Amos

But there is no animosity at all. It is just a matter of being right and wrong. Protestants are good people and often very good people. The problem with this is that salvation is for sinners only and so they look at religion form the wrong direction.

It's like playing soccer on a football field and every time you miss the mark you think you have scored a goal. In other words, sending people to hell is good deed in protestant circles as seen form the Catholic side of the fence.

So let me add why I would say that. In the protestant church when somebody accepts Christ as their personal savior he will be 'born-again' (especially if he was doused with some hokus pokus during the altar call). This will make them a new creation and is in fact why most protestant congregations do not considder Catholics to be Christian and is also why they go and preach the "salvation message" in Catholic areas (missions fields around the world).


In Catholicism we would call that a rebirth from carnal desire and will indeed land us in purgatory. Since it was our own choice to get there we will not have Mary on our side and thus we'll die there with the unresolved paradox sinful yet saved after wandering in the desert for 40 years instead of 40 months (this is based on Jn.6)

Our choice would be to wait until God calls us by name and so become reborn of God instead of carnal desire and will therefore meet Mary at the gates of Purgatory who will lead us right on and into heaven in 42 months.

The above is based on Jn.1:13.

Of course that is why the Church holds that heaven is for Catholics only while it does not deny salvation outside of the Church. The inference here is that it is impossible to "work out your own salvation" outside the Catholic Church and therefore protestants will die NONETHELESS just as the children of Israel did because both failed to mature in Christ and therefore remained like children of God.(Jn.6:58) . Ie, led into the promised land where they remained lost for life because of the paradox sinful yet saved (repent-rebel until death).

Amos

Sorry but that should have been "playing footbal on a soccerfield" and the 42 months come from Rev.13 where the first beast that had emerged form the celestial sea spoke with authority and determination for only 42 months. After that its name was written in the book of life to identify it as just another [Catholic] lamb that had been slain and now bears the stigma to prove it.