mark9950

That christianity believed that God created the earth as the center of the universe.

I could only assume that they also believed the earth was flat,set on pillars with a hard sky dome.

http://www.novan.com/galileo.htm

Of course we at this point are looking at what they believed from the beginning of the catholic church to the year 1991 before he conceded.I guess those nasa pictures were convincing.

Magus55

News for you mark, most of the doctrine that comes out of the Catholic Church is false and unbiblical - this proves nothing other than you are obsessed with pointless arguments.

The_Unknown_Banana

Magus55, it seems to me like you are defending your religion without anyone attacking it! There might just be some catholics out there who find this interesting...

Hugo Holbling

You have already posted that link once before, while having been corrected about the flat earth idea. We have also seen several interesting discussions of the Galileo affair recently, all of which demonstrate that it was alot more complex than the simplistic reading you and the link take of it. Given that you can reasonably be expected to know these things, why do you persist in trolling?

braces_for_impact

I am always amused at how protestants try so hard to keep themselves distanced from the catholic church.

Magus55

Im not protestant so it doesn't apply to me I stay away from the Catholic Church because it has too much heresy and false doctrine that doesn't match the Bible.

The_Unknown_Banana

Could you perhaps point me to a good reference which explains the (key) differences between catholics and most others? I have a friend who's interested...

Thx!

Magus55

Too many differences to explain. Some specifics about Catholicism that go against the Bible and most mainstream branches of Christianity are: the Pope's infallibility on matters of faith and morals, Mary is the Queen of Heaven, Co-Redemptix, perpetual virgin, born sinless and remained that way ( Immaculate conception), she was assumed into Heaven ( never physically died - she was just brought up to Heaven), the Sacraments are required to be saved, as well as other works. Praying to the dead is acceptable, they bow to statues and idols, the Pope kissed the Koran, which orders the killing of Jews and Christians, confession to a priest cleanses you of your sin, infant Baptism can save, the Roman Catholic Church is the one true church, and anyone not Catholic is hell-bound, etc.

Those are some of the biggies - there are plenty others I can't think of off the top of my head - EstherRose might know of some others.

mark9950

Can you please name us five.

You do not have to explain the verses because you do not know what the authors intended.

You just have to explain the differences between the catholic church and traditional christianity.

Do you know?Can you explain or not?

EstherRose

1)Protestants do not pray to dead saints. Protestant Christians pray directly to God only. While Catholics may pray to God, oftentimes they pray to saints asking them to intervene and ask God. While they don’t see anything wrong with that, the bible tells us not to.

1 Timothy 2
5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Matthew 6
6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you

Matthew 6
9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven,

Philippians 4
6Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

2) Protestants do not believe in the doctrine of Immaculate Conception. This is a manmade doctrine that states that Mary had to be sinless to bear Jesus. This is completely unsupported by the bible..

Romans 3
23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 5
21God made him who had no sin to be sin (or sin offering) for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

3) Protestants do not believe in the doctrine of Purgatory. Another man made concept. There is no biblical assertions for this in the bible. Revelation clearly defines heaven and hell. A parable told by Jesus also depicts heaven and hell.

Luke 16
19"There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23In hell,[3] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
25"But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
27"He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, 28for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
29"Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
30" 'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
31"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

4) Protestants believe that belief in Jesus is all we need to be saved. This is salvation by grace not works. Catholics believe in a works based salvation. The absolute need for baptism, confession to priest of sins and time in purgatory or hell if they aren’t all confessed before you die are just a couple of examples of how it is salvation by works.

John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[6] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Acts 2
21And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Acts 4
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

Acts 16
30He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"
31They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved--you and your household."

5)Protestants believe that we can read and interpret scripture for ourselves. The RCC believes that only the church can interpret scripture. Before you start telling me that I can read anything into it that I want to, let me assure you that is not what is meant. As you can see here in the verses, we are supposed to test to determine what God’s will is. How can we do that? I believe it is through the Holy Spirit and His written word. Scripture is the inspired Word of God. Reading His word is the only way we can hope to understand Him.

Acts 17
10As soon as it was night, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went to the Jewish synagogue. 11Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. 12Many of the Jews believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.

2 Timothy 3
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

James 1
5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.

John 16
13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

Romans 12
2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.