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			It seems plain to me that Jesus of Nazareth is not mentioned at all anywhere in the plain sense of the Hebrew Bible.  Efforts to retroject him therein are the product of a later period, in which Christian tradents read the Hebrew scriptures through a particular interpretive lens.  Moslems who insist that Mohammed is prefigured in the Hebrew Bible and in the New Testament engage in similar flights of fancy. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	If one is patient enough, one can turn the Christological hermeneutic on its head. See the first post in <a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000053" target="_blank">Turning the Christian hermeneutic on its head.</a>  | 
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			i started this thread up again to call into question comments from the previous page.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Here is the original question: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The Bible also CLEARLY states that Isaiah prophesied that King Ahaz would be victorous over ths Syrian-Isralite armies. The Bible also CLEARLY states that Ahaz was defeated. 2 Kings 16:5 "Then Rezin king of Syria and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel came up to Jerusalem to war: and they besieged Ahaz, but could not overcome him." Rezah and Pekah are the two firebrands of Isaiah 7:4. The events in verses 5-9 are said by some to contradict 2 Chronicles 28:5-20; but the event recorded in 2 Chron. happened the year before, directly after (2 Chron. 28:5-20), in 631 BC (App 50 V, p 59). Rezin and Pekah both attacked directly after his accession (successfully). But they confederated unsuccessfully.  | 
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