Gurdur

LOL.
You're wrong ---- I'm not even over 45 yet.

sphinx wui

Loren Pechtel wrote;


Well, I have no religious background, period. I've always been an athiest. My parents were athiests. I don't know one way or another about my grandparents.

Ok, no problem. By the way, Moshe Diane was an atheist and he considered all this crab of chosen people and the promised land as a common folklore of the Jews,period.


and wrote;

Of course--it brought in a lot of money!


Of course it was under Egyptian control without any peace treaty.


and wrote;

Israel was not the aggressor in 1973 despite actually firing the first shot. When you know war is going to happen anyway you're better off shooting first.


You got this one wrong, Egypt fired the first shot and claimed that it responded to an Israeli attack and Egypt was not the aggressor,if you occupy the land of anther country, this country has the right to do what ever it takes to get its land back and you can check the report that the Israeli commission wrote after the war and led to resignation of Diane.



and wrote;

Note that you got your land back. The other Arabs won't sign peace treaties, they didn't get their land back.

Note that Lebanon got its land back without any treaty and surprisingly enough without an army cause the coward Israeli can�t withstand prolonged war with guerilla fighters.


and wrote;

In other words, your peace treaty is just a piece of paper??

Not exactly, just a trauce!! No peace treaty with thieves.


and wrote;

You're really out of touch with reality!

You don�t have an idea about history, ask an Egyptian and never believe Fokoyama.

to Gurur,
ok, i got this one wrong but may be some premature calcifications!!!!!!

Gurdur

Don't worry, it's not the only one you got wrong, by far.

No, none at all in my case.

Possibly you might like to check your spelling throughout your posts, BTW.

Back to substance:
you don't like people over 45, you don't like your father, you don't like people who post disagreeing with you, you don't like Jews......

anyone you do like ?

Darwin26

[This post was objecting to Gurder's objections about spelling errors but it was far too name-calling in doing so.]

sphinx wui

Gurdur wrote'


anyone you do like ?

yes,you Gurdur.

yguy

OK, so Israel still gave back some of the Sinai. That they did it under duress is of no great moment, since they obviously saw an opportunity pacify to some degree one of the many enemies which surround them. They had every right to keep the land if they wanted to, seeing how they gained it in a battle provoked by the Arabs.

I don't know, but I know damned well Arafat wouldn't bother negotiating with Israel if they played nice. That was demonstrated under Barak.

The parent who lets a child become a suicide bomber and then takes money from the Saudis for it, that's who.

Danya

All I know is it would have to be someone with absolutely no hope at all for the future that would feel her child would be better off dead.

Since you're all so full of facts and truth...how many families actually received funds and what do they do with the money? Is it seized by Israel? Do they buy new homes because the old ones were knocked down? How much more can you make a family in that much pain suffer? I can't imagine living in a place that's justice system punishes not only the criminal but also his entire family. How dispicable.

And don't tell me all these parents are singlehandedly teaching hate to the children...the Israeli's do enough to them to earn that hate on their own.

sphinx wui

To Yguy,

You think it is fun or a job to blow yourself up? If you ask me to shot somebody from a distance and offer me 100.000 $ I will think about it but if you offer me 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000 $ to blow myself and kill somebody else or promise me to give this money to my family you think I will accept! Be logic and reasonable? At least use the same logic that you kept using to justify the killing of a baby to defend your buddies in Israel.
Those people there land got STOLEN from them by the Jews with the help of your country and they left with no other option but to fight to death. You want them to be slaughtered in silence without any resistance cause the delicate Americans will call them terrorists and It doesn�t look good as a PR. To hell with the PR.

For your knowledge, after what happened in Genin Refugee camp, most of the countries of the world sent humanitarian aid to the camp including America and when the American aid arrived they refused to take it and asked them to leave, WAKE UP, THEIR BLOOD IN YOUR HANDS.

Loren Pechtel

Originally posted by sphinx wui
was taken by force after the war and the evidence was the opening of the Suez Canal in 1975, how can Egypt open the canal while its east bank was occupied by Israel and we were still in a state of war with them?

Why not? There wasn't active shooting. They didn't have any reason to keep the canal closed. Thus so long as you did it as a civilian operation (no big pile of troops involved) I see no reason they would have interfered.

Without October war, Israel would never think of returning one inch of land to Egypt.

Why? You were the one unwilling to negotiate, you have no idea what they would have agreed to.

disaster on them. the only language Israel understand is force and without it they will never set on the table. Can you imagine Sharon negotiating with the Palestinians without this uprising! The Israeli economy is crumbling now and the tourist industry is over and there is a general strike in Israel now cause of this, this is why he wants to set and talk.

Watch what happens! When things are peaceful Israel will talk peace. As soon as it looks like peace might actually happen, though, the terrorists step up their attacks to ensure it doesn't happen.

Arab terrorists and their proxies in the westbank��������������..

Would you please bother yourself a little and read about Jabotinsky, Shamir, Der Yasin, Lavon Affair, Sabra and Shatela., Baroch Goldstein�����..before you speak.

Did Israel ever attack most of the Arab countries? No. The only aggressive actions I can think of are against Iraq (the reactor) and Lebanon (when they got tired of the terrorist bases there.) Why are the Arabs funding the terrorism?

You think the Palestinians care if you call them terrorists or how the world look at them, the whole world betrayed them and there is nothing left for them to care about,

If they didn't care what the world thought they wouldn't keep making up stories about what happened. How about the so-called Jenin massacre?

history will remember them for their fighting against a gang supported by a

History will remember them for what they are: Murdering terrorists.

superpower! And who is the coward? The guy hiding inside a tank or people fighting with stones and guns and facing death every second without fear cause they know that their cause is just while the other side know very well that they are just thieves.

They have no idea of the true situation--their schools teach fiction for history.

There is nothing holy in this world and every thing is on the table for discussion even the �holy holocaust� I used to cover my face when I was young when they show the pictures of the holocaust on TV but not any more, I grew up. I am not here to discuss it or investigate its existence as

The point is that by denying it you are showing that your knowledge of the world is seriously flawed. Why should we think you are any more accurate about anything else?

comments about it, I got also enraged when I read the comments of both Loren Pechtel and Yguy.if we need to argue about the killing of this Palestinian Baby,

The point is that what they claim happened is almost certainly a work of fiction. You'll find plenty more of it at the library, why don't you go get upset about some of that. Just because it's a story that blames Israel doesn't make it magically true.

About its existence, I think there is a book called �the Holocaust Industry� by a Jewish! Author called Franklestein exploring how they use it to gain their goals.do any body here know that 3 million Cambodians got killed by the red Khmer there and nobody build musems for them, made movies, or wrote books!

Sure, there have been other atrocities that haven't gotten the attention the Holocaust did. Until recently (things like Uganda) they weren't attempted genocide, though--merely brutal dictators. This reduces the attention paid to it.

The millions that killed in Vietnam forgotten and all what is left is 50,000 Americans dead!

Does any society note enemy deaths with anything like the attention they pay to their own?

The Indians, Just savage people, the black slavery, how dare they ask for compensation, but when it comes to the �Holy Holocaust� every body has to kneel after emptying his pocket to show respect!

Time!

Furthermore, the Jews are only after two basic things: Their *OWN* assets returned when they can be identified and retribution from companies that were part of the problem in Germany. I disagree with the latter--under that sort of government resistance isn't conductive to one's survival.

If we consider human beings all equal that is ok with me but if we start to put price tags on every body this is something different, if you consider Jewish blood more important than Palestinian blood and it is ok to kill

It has nothing to do with Jew vs Palesntinian. It has to do with criminals vs law enforcement.

racist!Nazi! Anti Semite�����in America when they want to discredit someone they call him pro Palestinian!!

It's saying they support terrorism.

Loren Pechtel

Note where he is from: Egypt! English is probably not his native language. Spelling mistakes are to be expected in such a situation.