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abe smith · 11-11-2002, 06:06 AM

Not all of us who (enjoy an occasional ) jerk-off "use " other people to do so. 'Bax', you shur have some weird ideas. Why'n'cha go take a LOOOOOOOOOOOOng cold shower and then run 20 miles?

Stephen Maturin · 11-11-2002, 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Trebaxian Vir:
<strong>Please cease presenting to the objects who are in the habit of viewing the contents of my posts or any other posts on this internet forum the analogical representation of class "ignorant" when I am the object of deliberate direction. It offends me. IT OFFENDS ME.</strong>

Oh, my! It's just like a Norm Crosby routine, only funny.

That post is comedic gold, gold I tell ya!

daemon · 11-11-2002, 11:25 AM

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Trebaxian Vir: Please cease presenting to the objects who are in the habit of viewing the contents of my posts or any other posts on this internet forum the analogical representation of class "ignorant" when I am the object of deliberate direction. It offends me. IT OFFENDS ME.

Perhaps if you tried to relate to people rather than lecture and insult, someone might care whether they offended you. As it stands, I see no reason to grant you that much respect.

By the way, did you mean derision?

daemon · 11-11-2002, 11:34 AM

By the way, Trebaxian Lady, if you're really trying to communicate, I would suggest you be more concise. Your verbosity serves no useful purpose, but simply renders your messages unreadable.

Vesica · 11-11-2002, 11:41 AM

Taking a Big Step Backwards Here......

In response to your orginal question: No.

You have danced around this question but I have not seen it directly answered:
So what if one does not think of anyone while pleasuring themselves??

Also, what if one thinks of the person they have been (and presumably will continue to have) consenual sex with? How can you argue that this situation constitutes mental rape? Would the person need to call the other first and say "Look Hon, you are at work and I'm lonely...Mind if I imagine you here while I touch myself?" If the other person agrees then what?

What about inadvertant pleasuring? Think of all the violated bicycle seats, jacuzzi jets and even inner thighs that happened to squeeze the wrong way.....

In short, I can't even figure out what you are arguing here....The idea of mental rape in intreging....Wonder how this ties into video game violence (after all if I willingly 'rape' others in my mind and presumably I would in reality given the chance, what can be infered from my killing a few dragons in a video game??).

Glory · 11-11-2002, 11:48 AM

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Well, to such a degree and extent as the specified, seamingly sentient, object is presently of an undesirable mental disposition (and perhaps owing to it), which is quite manifest in the object's doubtless cessation of functioning in a manner charateristic of class "non-feebleminded" (although that would imply that we can consciously perceive negations--ignore that for the moment) in relation to the state of being suitable to fully comprehend the undeniably manifest and self-explanatory, which has been observed on occasion and is a characteristic and desirable (insofar as common thought is an object of desire) trait of the norm, which any sentient object ought to conform to (and if deficient in this respect, be attracted by), that no psychologically able man ever sees occasion for doubt as regards this point, the specified person is mistaken; for it is so incredibly manifest that the potential perceiver of the object of potential consideration is not even consciously considered by any sentient object that is a member of class "educated man".

This is what my English Teachers always refferred to as a run on sentence. Further more, it is badly punctuated resulting in its being utterly incomprhensible. I think he is trying to say that
Tronvillain is ignorant but it is almost completely obscured in a torrent of redundant words.

Get over your self Lady, and remember. The key to good communication is brevity.

Glory

tronvillain · 11-11-2002, 12:02 PM

Trebaxian Vir:

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Well, to such a degree and extent as the specified, seamingly sentient, object is presently of an undesirable mental disposition (and perhaps owing to it), which is quite manifest in the object's doubtless cessation of functioning in a manner charateristic of class "non-feebleminded" (although that would imply that we can consciously perceive negations--ignore that for the moment) in relation to the state of being suitable to fully comprehend the undeniably manifest and self-explanatory, which has been observed on occasion and is a characteristic and desirable (insofar as common thought is an object of desire) trait of the norm, which any sentient object ought to conform to (and if deficient in this respect, be attracted by), that no psychologically able man ever sees occasion for doubt as regards this point, the specified person is mistaken; for it is so incredibly manifest that the potential perceiver of the object of potential consideration is not even consciously considered by any sentient object that is a member of class "educated man".

So, you are attempting to avoid addressing your failure to support your accusation of logical fallacies? A typical Trebaxian gambit.

TRANSLATION:

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You have a bad attitude because you do not agree with me. You are ignorant because you do not agree with me. It is self-evident that my position is true. Any truly rational person would agree with me. You are wrong and stupid.

In othe words, a whiny rant devoid of any rational argument. It seems I was correct in my earlier appraisal.

Totalitarianist · 11-11-2002, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Glory:
<strong>[/b]

This is what my English Teachers always refferred to as a run on sentence.</strong>

Actually, it is a run on sentence because I forgot to insert the word "and" in one of clauses. Otherwise it is okay.

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Further more, it is badly punctuated resulting in its being utterly incomprhensible.

Examples?

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it is almost completely obscured in a torrent of redundant words.

Examples?

Totalitarianist · 11-11-2002, 04:06 PM

Why would you translate it? It is already in clear, normal English. Also, the "translation" is false.

11-11-2002, 04:07 PM

Lady, why don't you cut the shit if you want to have a real discussion here?

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11-11-2002, 06:06 AM	#61
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	Not all of us who (enjoy an occasional ) jerk-off "use " other people to do so. 'Bax', you shur have some weird ideas. Why'n'cha go take a LOOOOOOOOOOOOng cold shower and then run 20 miles?

11-11-2002, 11:34 AM	#64
daemon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 737	By the way, Trebaxian Lady, if you're really trying to communicate, I would suggest you be more concise. Your verbosity serves no useful purpose, but simply renders your messages unreadable.

11-11-2002, 11:41 AM	#65
Vesica Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sunny FLA USA Posts: 212	Taking a Big Step Backwards Here...... In response to your orginal question: No. You have danced around this question but I have not seen it directly answered: So what if one does not think of anyone while pleasuring themselves?? Also, what if one thinks of the person they have been (and presumably will continue to have) consenual sex with? How can you argue that this situation constitutes mental rape? Would the person need to call the other first and say "Look Hon, you are at work and I'm lonely...Mind if I imagine you here while I touch myself?" If the other person agrees then what? What about inadvertant pleasuring? Think of all the violated bicycle seats, jacuzzi jets and even inner thighs that happened to squeeze the wrong way..... In short, I can't even figure out what you are arguing here....The idea of mental rape in intreging....Wonder how this ties into video game violence (after all if I willingly 'rape' others in my mind and presumably I would in reality given the chance, what can be infered from my killing a few dragons in a video game??).

11-11-2002, 04:06 PM	#69
Totalitarianist Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,234	Why would you translate it? It is already in clear, normal English. Also, the "translation" is false.

11-11-2002, 04:07 PM	#70
Jagged Guest Posts: n/a	Lady, why don't you cut the shit if you want to have a real discussion here?

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