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Principia · 07-14-2003, 06:54 AM

If there are any non-Xian members of DI, they'd find themselves ostracized as soon as DI get its "renewal" of science and culture.

Simply read Meyer as he filters out all modes of philosophical models towards Christianity as an "inference to the best explanation"

http://www.discovery.org/articleFile...nofGdHypth.pdf

gallo · 07-14-2003, 07:09 AM

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Discovery�s Center for Science and Culture has more than 40 Fellows, including biologists, biochemists, physicists, philosophers and historians of science, and public policy and legal experts, many of whom have affiliations with colleges and universities.

Just as a matter of interest, does anybody know how many of the 40 aren't Christians?

And

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The effort to detect design in nature is being adopted by a growing number of biologists, biochemists, physicists, mathematicians, and philosophers of science at colleges and universities around the world.

The above prompts two questions:

1) Not merely how many aren't Christians now, but how many weren't Christians at the time they earned their academic qualifications?

2) And of course, if the numbers are growing, name 10 who have joined the movement in the last year.

pz · 07-14-2003, 07:34 AM

Do Moonies count as christians?

Majestyk · 07-14-2003, 08:23 AM

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Intelligent design theory is (a)an effort to empirically detect whether the �apparent design� in nature acknowledged by (b)virtually all biologists is genuine design (the product of an intelligent cause) or is simply the product of an undirected process such as natural selection acting on random variations.

my emphasis
(a) The theory is unfounded, by admission. The effort to validate it has been, as of yet, unsuccessful. I don't believe we normally allow theories, that do not have supporting evidence, to be included in textbooks.
(b) This assertion requires evidence or clarification.

KC · 07-14-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by pz
Do Moonies count as christians?

How do christians count?

KC

pz · 07-14-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by KC
How do christians count?

I'm not sure, but it seems to be "3, 3, 3...".

BioBeing · 07-14-2003, 12:05 PM

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Raymond G. Bohlin [...] has published numerous journal articles...

None of which are listed in Pubmed

Passant · 07-15-2003, 04:46 AM

Does anyone know what the outcome of these hearings was? From the deafening silence of the right wing radio talk shows around here, I suspect that common sense has prevailed, but you never know in Texas.

Principia · 07-15-2003, 05:31 AM

I think it was par for the course. Then again, the IDiots had to release a press statement (or two) disclaiming that they weren't creationists -- always a plus, in my view. You can read snippets of it here: http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/new..._7_10_2003.asp

Jimmy Higgins · 07-15-2003, 05:32 AM

Why does DI refer to itself in the third person in their own article?

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A national think tank today charged CNN with airing a largely fictional report about scientific critics of evolution who testified yesterday before the Texas State Board of Education.

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07-14-2003, 06:54 AM	#11
Principia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: anywhere Posts: 1,976	If there are any non-Xian members of DI, they'd find themselves ostracized as soon as DI get its "renewal" of science and culture. Simply read Meyer as he filters out all modes of philosophical models towards Christianity as an "inference to the best explanation" http://www.discovery.org/articleFile...nofGdHypth.pdf

07-14-2003, 07:34 AM	#13
pz Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Morris, MN Posts: 3,341	Do Moonies count as christians?

07-15-2003, 04:46 AM	#18
Passant Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: 7th circle of hell Posts: 12	Does anyone know what the outcome of these hearings was? From the deafening silence of the right wing radio talk shows around here, I suspect that common sense has prevailed, but you never know in Texas.

07-15-2003, 05:31 AM	#19
Principia Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: anywhere Posts: 1,976	I think it was par for the course. Then again, the IDiots had to release a press statement (or two) disclaiming that they weren't creationists -- always a plus, in my view. You can read snippets of it here: http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/new..._7_10_2003.asp

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