Mageth

A 6 has no material properties. A 6 has no location. A 6 has no time. With a 6 one can experience in many meaningful sense.

Got it?

You appear to be attempting to objectify a concept, or rather a symbol for a concept, and trying to ascribe some kind of existence to it external to the concept. Apparently this existence is supposed to be immaterial, alocational, and timeless, whatever the hell that's supposed to be. I'd refer to it as "non-existent". You choose to label it "spiritual."

A "6" does not exist in any "meaningful" sense outside of our minds. Got it?

"6" does not exist in nature, outside of your mind.

"6" is a symbol or label we assign to the concept of an integer one greater than 5, and exists only in our thoughts. Outside of our minds, a 6 does not exist at all. If humans didn't exist, "6" wouldn't exist.

"6" (the symbol and concept) was conceptualized due to our mind's predeliction to assigning order, and labels, to what our senses have observed. Actually, integer was a later concept; originially, "6" was a symbol for a group of one more than 5 objects.

To exit from this environment, that was called hell by ancient myth writers, to an environment, that is free of imperfection, free of time and free of locations, was named heaven by ancient myth writers.

You're confusing the hell out of me. To exit from an "environment" to another environment would seem to require time and location(s).

The concept of "Environment" cannot be described or imagined without time and location attributes, nor could one go to something without time and location attributes.

If all you're saying is that heaven and hell don't exist in reality, then we're perfectly in agreement.

Volker.Doormann

No. Each hexagonal single crystal while catching matching ions knows how to use a 6. Each colony of bees is aware of the great value of a 6.



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Each oscillating mass system in the universe is aware, that the potency relation between the inverse frequency and the big halve axis of the oscillating mass distance is 6 to 4 by number since there are mass in the universe and prior to this time. Since Pluto is resonating with Neptune for a long time in this galaxy the relation between the two frequency cycles is 6 to 4 by number. The relation between two harmonic audio frequencies of a Quinte (music) is 6 to 4 by number.

One can ignore this, but that doesn't change the truth of this integer number relations as examples of numbers as a non physical existence of harmony without any mind.

It means, that an existence does not necessary needs location or time (AFAIK physicists doesn't need time at all to write their equations of the physical nature).

An "Evironment" can also be an "Environment" in the world of boolean algebra.

Volker

Volker.Doormann

It's a common term.

Volker

Volker.Doormann

I can, I do, and I have done it already. But this is a political discussion. I have no interest in political discussions.

I have written here some 60 postings in the last three month loaded with critical theological arguments and my thoughts about the Hebrew scriptures and the teaching of Jesus.

Volker

Mageth

No. Each hexagonal single crystal while catching matching ions knows how to use a 6. Each colony of bees is aware of the great value of a 6.

A crystal "knows" how to use nothing. A colony of bees is not "aware" of the great value of 6. A bee has no idea how many sides a cell in a hive contains. Bees can't count. All they've done is evolved a method of construction, in which, by "accident" one might say, the cells have six sides.

It took us, with our intellects, to actually count those sides and assign the symbol "6" to their number.

Each oscillating mass system in the universe is aware, that the potency relation between the inverse frequency and the big halve axis of the oscillating mass distance is 6 to 4 by number since there are mass in the universe and prior to this time.

Since Pluto is resonating with Neptune for a long time in this galaxy the relation between the two frequency cycles is 6 to 4 by number. The relation between two harmonic audio frequencies of a Quinte (music) is 6 to 4 by number.

An "oscillating mass system" is not aware of anything.

There is nothing "magical" or spiritual about those ratios/numbers. The examples you gave could just as easily be expressed as 3 to 2, or 1.5 to 1, or 12 to 8, any other derivation of "6 to 4", or even by the length of one stick compared to another stick! Any "label" we put to them is a product of our minds and our inherent drive to find order and assign symbols to what we observe.

One can ignore this, but that doesn't change the truth of this integer number relations as examples of numbers as a non physical existence of harmony without any mind.

It's true that in nature we find ratios and such that are fascintating to our minds, and assign symbols to numbers. But that still doesn't mean that such ratios and numbers should be objectified and assigned some spiritual signifance that is simply not there. "Harmony without any mind" is merely the emergence of order from disorder which we observe in the universe, the order arising from the properties of matter/energy along with a set of rules governing interactions of matter/energy. All quite natural, and assigning "supernatural", spiritual significance to it is simply not necessary and only serves to add a cloud of "significance" to it that's simply not there.

But it does serve to illustrate my very point - our minds are bulldogs when it comes to assigning "order" and even "significance" to what we see. Fortunately, at least some of us are also capable of recognizing unnecessary, arbitrary layers of "significance" which some are wont to add, such as "spirituality", and dispose of them so we can be free to understand and reap the utilitarian benefits of the order we perceive without getting bogged down by the unnecessary.

Volker.Doormann

Thanks for conversation.

Volker