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pseudobug · 01-30-2002, 05:19 PM

Found this article in the Dec. 2001 issue of Evolution entitled <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=055&issue=12&page=2379" target="_blank">PERSPECTIVE: EVOLUTION'S STRUGGLE FOR EXISTENCE IN AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS</a> by Antolin and Herbers.

For those of you who are digital packrats and collect this sort of stuff, you may find it interesting.

My apologies if it has been posted before.

If it would be more appropriate to post info like this elsewhere, please let me know. I'm still feeling my way around here.

Coragyps · 01-30-2002, 05:46 PM

Thanks for the link! I am fairly sure that the fundamentalist scheme here in Texas is to simply omit the chapters on evolution from any discussion in secondary school classes, and not really to have any "policy" on the subject. I may have to go nosing around our local school system, now that it's too late for them to retaliate against any of my kids.

stryder2112 · 01-31-2002, 04:25 AM

Nice article. To see how some of this plays out in a local school district, see this link about a public campaign to rid the high school biology curriculum of evolution:

<a href="http://www.lafayettejc.com/news20020130/200201301local_opinion1012368704.shtml" target="_blank">Evolution of that old-time religion bashing in Jeff biology</a>

Stryder

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KeithHarwood · 01-31-2002, 03:57 PM

It seems to me that the core of the problem is that curricula are set by elected individuals who are amatures at science and education but professionals at getting themselves elected. Here in Oz the curricula are based on the University entrance examinations, so what the students learn is what the university lecturers want the students to know before they turn up for their course. So the only way to get creationism into schools here is to convince the majority of biologists in the majority of Universities they they want their students to know about it. Analogies with snowballs and Hell come to mind here.

The consequences are that evolution is non-controversial, biology is treated like any other science and students are ready for university level science on their first day at university.

01-30-2002, 05:19 PM	#1
pseudobug Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: land of confusion Posts: 178	Evolution's struggle in public schools (article link)... Found this article in the Dec. 2001 issue of Evolution entitled <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=055&issue=12&page=2379" target="_blank">PERSPECTIVE: EVOLUTION'S STRUGGLE FOR EXISTENCE IN AMERICA'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS</a> by Antolin and Herbers. For those of you who are digital packrats and collect this sort of stuff, you may find it interesting. My apologies if it has been posted before. If it would be more appropriate to post info like this elsewhere, please let me know. I'm still feeling my way around here.

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01-30-2002, 05:46 PM	#2
Coragyps Veteran Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Snyder,Texas,USA Posts: 4,411	Thanks for the link! I am fairly sure that the fundamentalist scheme here in Texas is to simply omit the chapters on evolution from any discussion in secondary school classes, and not really to have any "policy" on the subject. I may have to go nosing around our local school system, now that it's too late for them to retaliate against any of my kids.

01-31-2002, 04:25 AM	#3
stryder2112 Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 125	Nice article. To see how some of this plays out in a local school district, see this link about a public campaign to rid the high school biology curriculum of evolution: <a href="http://www.lafayettejc.com/news20020130/200201301local_opinion1012368704.shtml" target="_blank">Evolution of that old-time religion bashing in Jeff biology</a> Stryder [ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: stryder2112 ]</p>

01-31-2002, 03:57 PM	#4
KeithHarwood Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Baulkham Hills, New South Wales,Australia Posts: 944	It seems to me that the core of the problem is that curricula are set by elected individuals who are amatures at science and education but professionals at getting themselves elected. Here in Oz the curricula are based on the University entrance examinations, so what the students learn is what the university lecturers want the students to know before they turn up for their course. So the only way to get creationism into schools here is to convince the majority of biologists in the majority of Universities they they want their students to know about it. Analogies with snowballs and Hell come to mind here. The consequences are that evolution is non-controversial, biology is treated like any other science and students are ready for university level science on their first day at university.

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