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Richard1366 · 06-28-2002, 05:42 AM

At cnn.com there is a poll which states:

"Do you agree with the U.S. Constitution's separation of church and state?"

The current vote is:

Yes 74%
No 26%

That 26% of those voting seemingly want religion in government is unbelievable.

Ayatollah Bush does have a nice ring about it, however..

Kvalhion · 06-28-2002, 05:45 AM

Not to mention how hypocritical the voters are, as the poll is an exact opposite of asking whether "under God" in the pledge is unconstitutional.

As usual, people are not decidedly one way or another. The support Church and State separation, as long as they can have their "minimal" violations like God in the pledge and God on currency.

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ashibaka · 06-28-2002, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Richard1366:
<strong>That 26% of those voting seemingly want religion in government is unbelievable.</strong>

Not at all. I went to one forum to debate, and the Christian opposing the movement said, "Christianity is the correct religion, maybe if we keep the word 'God' people will realize that."

The Christian meme is self-reinforcing. Probably, the 26% are all born-agains and fundies who want all other religions to see the error of their ways.

ohwilleke · 06-28-2002, 11:25 AM

The 26% number actually sounds about right to me. A clear minority.

Splat · 06-28-2002, 01:32 PM

26% is actually sort of encouraging. I'd have guessed it would be much higher. In my neck of the woods, it most definitely is.

Spazmatic · 06-28-2002, 03:46 PM

Assuming an accurate poll (which it is obviously not) 26% means we got a LOT of theists going with us.

Why? Free thinkers, in Oregon, account for 28%. In Washington, 27%. (Numbers according to NYU survey). Everywhere else, less. In fact, nationally, I believe it's 13%. Which means, yeh! Yes Virginia, there are sane theists!

tragic_pizza · 06-28-2002, 08:57 PM

Some of us theists get cold chills at the thought of Government having a hand in our religious beliefs.

Yeah, as if we need more politics in church...

PJPSYCO · 06-28-2002, 09:28 PM

It doesn't shock me, since I know that ~25% of the united states are the christian findies who think (paraphrasing the leader of USCS) that the government should help them with the spread of their religion and not that they do it themselves.

The votes on the current case polls are not surpising either since the questions are poor. Some don't even mention the under god part.

06-28-2002, 05:42 AM	#1
Richard1366 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,260	Really scary CNN poll At cnn.com there is a poll which states: "Do you agree with the U.S. Constitution's separation of church and state?" The current vote is: Yes 74% No 26% That 26% of those voting seemingly want religion in government is unbelievable. Ayatollah Bush does have a nice ring about it, however..

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06-28-2002, 05:45 AM	#2
Kvalhion Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Southern CA Posts: 441	Not to mention how hypocritical the voters are, as the poll is an exact opposite of asking whether "under God" in the pledge is unconstitutional. As usual, people are not decidedly one way or another. The support Church and State separation, as long as they can have their "minimal" violations like God in the pledge and God on currency. [ June 28, 2002: Message edited by: Kvalhion ]</p>

06-28-2002, 11:25 AM	#4
ohwilleke Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 4,834	The 26% number actually sounds about right to me. A clear minority.

06-28-2002, 01:32 PM	#5
Splat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hell, PA Posts: 599	26% is actually sort of encouraging. I'd have guessed it would be much higher. In my neck of the woods, it most definitely is.

06-28-2002, 03:46 PM	#6
Spazmatic Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 55	Assuming an accurate poll (which it is obviously not) 26% means we got a LOT of theists going with us. Why? Free thinkers, in Oregon, account for 28%. In Washington, 27%. (Numbers according to NYU survey). Everywhere else, less. In fact, nationally, I believe it's 13%. Which means, yeh! Yes Virginia, there are sane theists!

06-28-2002, 08:57 PM	#7
tragic_pizza Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 108	Some of us theists get cold chills at the thought of Government having a hand in our religious beliefs. Yeah, as if we need more politics in church...

06-28-2002, 09:28 PM	#8
PJPSYCO Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rolla, Missouri Posts: 830	It doesn't shock me, since I know that ~25% of the united states are the christian findies who think (paraphrasing the leader of USCS) that the government should help them with the spread of their religion and not that they do it themselves. The votes on the current case polls are not surpising either since the questions are poor. Some don't even mention the under god part.

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