beachbum

I am updating a major paper I wrote in '98 and I want to add some information. I know less about Islam and the Muslim faith than just about any topic you might imagine. That is part of why I want to expand on the previous paper.

What is exactly the position of the Koran on the Death Penalty? Is it pro/con/indifferent? Is it for specific crimes only? has it been bastardized like the fundies have done with the bable?

Do Muslims put gays and fornicators to death or just people who blaspheme and pick their noses in front of Mulahs?

cloudyphiz

remember the taliban? that was strict interpretation of the koran.

i've never discussed the issue with any of the muslims that i know, but i'm certain that that capitol punishment is an integral part of the justice system spelled out in the koran.

-gary

Baalthazaq

Big can of worms. Bad timing.

The Death Penalty is regarded as punishment for certain crimes, including: Murder/Rape/ and the majority say Adultery, but this has in some places (E.g. Egypt), been stretched to include Homosexuality.

However in order for them to Justify the stoning of homosexuals they bypass Quran, and put greater authority in Hadith (Stories). This is the only case in which I have seen the authority of the Quran being abrogated by Hadith because quite simply it shouldn't happen.

The death penalty can however be abstained by the family of the victim, or the victim themselves in some cases.

(Reason it's a big can of worms is that pretty much everything I have just said is debateable, and the reason it's bad timing is that I think I'm going away for a week. If you need anything in particular e-mail me though. Baalthazaq@hotmail.com )

Also I'd appreciate if you sent me the essay, (I wrote one of my own and would like to compare notes as it were.)

Baalthazaq

And STRICT interpretation of the Quran is different from EXTREME interpretation.

If I see a verse which says:
Do not kill Ugly people, and I don't kill ugly people it's being strictly enterpreted.

If someone else reads it and wipes out good looking people on the basis that ugly people won't kill other ugly people due to a sortof shared sympathy and that only the good looking are capable of such things as killing the unfortunate, so they must be the scourge of the earth, and therefore the children of Satan himself, so must be burned alive as is the fitting punishment of minor demons and the like.

This has not been strictly interpreted. There has been alot of play. It's just SEVERE/EXTREME.

Despite what some may think, the peaceful Muslims aren't just peaceful because they're less religious.

Bree

This might get more responses in Non-Abrahamic Religion & Philosophy...

<looks at list of active topics>

I might lose my mod status - this is the THIRD post I've moved today. Maybe I'm getting too officious...

Skepticwithachainsaw

Umm Bree, isn't Islam technically an Abrahamic Religion?

beachbum

Bree,

I humbly submit to your every whim.

Stan

ps. You can move this thread wherever you desire. I just want some serious answers.


Baalthazaq

That is exactly the kind of answers I am looking for. I will be glad to e-mail the paper to you or anyone else if you want it. It goes to about 24 pages and is over 4 years old. I am currently updating it since the origional piece started with "Capital Punishment in Third World Countries". I am going to rewrite the paper and include all 192 recognized countries.

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Pantera

Heading back to MRD...