notMichaelJackson

Eleven months ago, when I joined a Christian message board, I registered with one question that had been perplexing me, “Will a person who committed a sin against his or her will be punished with eternal Hellfire by God?” This question boils down to, “Should God be worshiped if he acts unjustly?”

Similar questions evolved from this in my mind, such as “Should I worship God if He sends a person to Hell simply because they never heard the Gospels?” I have presented this question to many Christians, and most have replied that they would continue worshiping God even if he sends those who have never had the chance to become Christians to Hell. No reasonable person would say that God is acting properly by doing this, but they continue to worship him anyway.

I am not sure I could worship the Christian God for these reasons (among others), even if a Christian proved he exists.

There is nothing that could make me convert to Islam. Even if a Muslim proved that Allah exists, I would not worship him because of his orders to take over the world, hate nonbelievers, and oppress women.

I don’t want to debate either religion in this thread. Should you wish to defend Christianity or Islam against my comments, feel free to start another thread and post a link to it.

Could you worship a god that your conscience told you not to?

Beleg_Strongbow

Absolutely not. Even if the Christian god came in front of me and proved that he existed and the bible was all true, I'd never worship him because of all the evil things he did in the bible, and still does. I'd hate him, even if it meant being smited and burning in hell. In fact, I can't imagine any god would be fit for worshipping, considering what the world is like today.

Walross

I couldn't, not only for the moral reasons above, but also because I simply don't have the capacity to worship/abase myself for any being (even if they were omnibenevolent).

Walross

NonHomogenized

not a chance in hell, so to speak

In fact, even if someone were able to prove to me that god exists (already a situation I think is, by definition, impossible. Just those last two words, you see...), I cannot think of a situation in which that god would be worthy of worship, and, as such, if he wants me to worship him, then I'll be happy to do so by letting him kiss my ass. And that's about the best he'd be able to expect from me.

Darth Dane

Someone said when he asked God, why all these bad things occur(not discussing hell or heaven), that God answered "It is just my rythm"

Just like we breathe both in and out, two opposing forces, like yin and yang or Love and hate.

We can't have life without death, pleasure without pain.

Who are we to judge this? I revel in Life and that I Am, do I want all to have a good life and so on? YES of course, but I see that many times humans won't take action, and rely on "God will handle it" but as long as humans keep producing weapons, keeps on neglecting the third world hunger and suffering, nothing heavenly will happen.


What if you discovered that you are a God(Psalms 82) and your conscience told you not to(because you don't consider yourself to be a God) would you worship yourself?







DD - Love & Laughter

Arken

If the situation was 'worship my god or I shoot you in the head' I sure as hell could.

Also, if there was proof that A) he existed and B) his existence meant I would not spend an eternity in torturous pain if I spent the next 60 years or so kissing his ass, I sure as hell would kiss his ass.

I'm glad there's no such proof so I don't have to.

notMichaelJackson

What if you considered God to unjust, immoral, or even "evil?" How could you "kiss his butt" if that was what you believed? What if God sent millions of people to hell simply because they had never heard the Gospels, and you strongly objected to this?

JaeIsGod

Heh , I'd sure as hell kiss his holy butt to prevent eternal torture. I'd hate God more then anything else , but I would just hope that he wouldnt notice.

NonHomogenized

Er... you're talking about lying to a (hypothetical) omniscient deity. Somehow, I think it would be pretty damn obvious to 'em. If I'm going to hell, I'm going to hell for being me, and following my conscience, and fuck any gods who don't like it.

Oh, and while I'm at it, eternity is a long fucking time. You know what I'm going to be doing with that time? Finding a way to either a) kill god, b) rebel against god, or c) force god to make me no longer exist. Remember Azrael, in Dogma? that'll be me: God must be held responsible for its actions (note that destroying everything would not be my preferred method of doing so).

agnawstick

Isn't lying to a hypothetical God what many/most christians do anyways? They are piss scared of hell, so they mouth words on Sunday then act like he doesn't exist the rest of the time, hoping he doesn't catch on to them. Maybe they think that God only pays extra special attention at church, and he might be napping the rest of the time.