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Daggah · 12-14-2002, 03:15 PM

Lol, Radorth contradicts history yet again.

Radorth: "if god didn't rule us, tyrants would."

And why did so many flee Europe for America?

To escape the tyranny of kings and monarchies who believed that God gave them their authority, just as God gave fathers absolute authority (read: tyrannical) over their children.

Daggah · 12-14-2002, 03:55 PM

And what is it with all the Christians who constantly claim that atheists "worship themselves?" It's not true. I certainly don't worship myself.

Radorth · 12-14-2002, 04:00 PM

Quote:

WHAT HAS ALL THIS ACCOMPLISHED RADORTH???

I don't know, but a lot of people seem interested in replying to nothing.

Quote:

And why did so many flee Europe for America?

To see what De Toqueville was raving about? To see what the meek, given a vote, would do with the earth? To see what Locke and Hooker had envisioned? To worship God "in spirit and in truth"?

Rad

Buffman · 12-14-2002, 04:01 PM

"Rad"

Forget it Buffman. My rule is to take quotes pretty much at face value unless they sound really fishy or are very short or have ellipses around them.

That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. OK! I'll forget trying to get anything accurate out of you. Thanks for elaborating the obvious. I hope you have a Merry Solstice and a Happy Gregorian New Year.

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Radorth · 12-14-2002, 04:08 PM

Good, we'll save tons of wasted time.

Rad

Daggah · 12-14-2002, 04:29 PM

And why did so many flee Europe for America?

Radorth: To see what De Toqueville was raving about?

LOL. That would have been rather hard for the first settlers of America, and those who came during its founding years.

Let's see if you know the reason why without being told.

Daggah · 12-14-2002, 04:33 PM

Oh, and Radorth...since you missed it the first time:

True or false: "The Constitution defines the government of the United States of America."

Radorth · 12-14-2002, 04:59 PM

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Let's see if you know the reason why without being told.

"In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord, King James, by the Grace of God, of England, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, e&.Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia; do by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the Presence of God and one of another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid; And by Virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the General good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In Witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh of November, in the Reign of our Sovereign Lord, King James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini, 1620."

Rad

Daggah · 12-14-2002, 05:08 PM

Either you didn't understand me or you're avoiding the issue (/me feigns surprise), Radorth. Do you know why it would have been hard for the early settlers of America to want to "come see what De Tocqueville" was talking about?

Daggah · 12-14-2002, 05:10 PM

And I'm sorry, Radorth, but that, too, does not define the American government, nor does it make America a Christian nation.

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12-14-2002, 03:15 PM	#271
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	Lol, Radorth contradicts history yet again. Radorth: "if god didn't rule us, tyrants would." And why did so many flee Europe for America? To escape the tyranny of kings and monarchies who believed that God gave them their authority, just as God gave fathers absolute authority (read: tyrannical) over their children.

12-14-2002, 03:55 PM	#272
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	And what is it with all the Christians who constantly claim that atheists "worship themselves?" It's not true. I certainly don't worship myself.

12-14-2002, 04:01 PM	#274
Buffman Beloved Deceased Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: central Florida Posts: 3,546	"Rad" Forget it Buffman. My rule is to take quotes pretty much at face value unless they sound really fishy or are very short or have ellipses around them. That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. OK! I'll forget trying to get anything accurate out of you. Thanks for elaborating the obvious. I hope you have a Merry Solstice and a Happy Gregorian New Year. <a href="http://es.rice.edu/ES/humsoc/Galileo/Things/gregorian_calendar.html" target="_blank">http://es.rice.edu/ES/humsoc/Galileo/Things/gregorian_calendar.html</a>

12-14-2002, 04:08 PM	#275
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	Good, we'll save tons of wasted time. Rad

12-14-2002, 04:29 PM	#276
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	And why did so many flee Europe for America? Radorth: To see what De Toqueville was raving about? LOL. That would have been rather hard for the first settlers of America, and those who came during its founding years. Let's see if you know the reason why without being told.

12-14-2002, 04:33 PM	#277
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	Oh, and Radorth...since you missed it the first time: True or false: "The Constitution defines the government of the United States of America."

12-14-2002, 05:08 PM	#279
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	Either you didn't understand me or you're avoiding the issue (/me feigns surprise), Radorth. Do you know why it would have been hard for the early settlers of America to want to "come see what De Tocqueville" was talking about?

12-14-2002, 05:10 PM	#280
Daggah Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Deployed to Kosovo Posts: 4,314	And I'm sorry, Radorth, but that, too, does not define the American government, nor does it make America a Christian nation.

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