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Corso · 07-28-2002, 11:32 AM

A couple weeks ago on The 700 Club, there was a segment about a gay man who became a born again xtian. He says that one day God started to talk to him about the evils of homosexuality and redemption. The guy then found out that he had contracted the AIDS virus and was dying. Then he claims God healed him and is now completley AIDS free and is now living a good hetrosexual xtian life.
Has anyone else heard about this story? Has it been reported in the secular press? Can AIDS really go into complete remission?

ExTheist · 07-28-2002, 11:40 AM

ANOTHER MIRACLE!!!!!

I always carry a bullet in my shirt pocket because years ago when somebody threw a Bible at me it bounced off the bullet and saved my life!*

*(from and old Woddy Allen book)

Mageth · 07-28-2002, 11:45 AM

Was it <a href="http://www.ntskeptics.org/1991/1991september/september1991.htm#tilton" target="_blank">this case?</a>

Corso · 07-28-2002, 12:03 PM

Mageth,
I don�t think it�s the same case because 1)the guy from the 700 club was white and his name was not Andre. 2) there was no mention of Robert Tilton or his show.

Straight Hate · 07-28-2002, 12:46 PM

Well... Better Jesus than a virgin, let me just say that.

Albion · 07-28-2002, 12:50 PM

I don't think it can go into complete remission, but if people are taking the modern drug cocktails the viral load can become practically undetectable by the usual methods. Also, I think that some people with a particular type of viral receptor can live with the virus as long-term nonprogressors for a very long time. But I've never heard of spontaneous remission of a chronic case of HIV infection.

cydonia · 07-28-2002, 12:53 PM

Did the guy have HIV or AIDS though? I thought that if and when HIV became AIDS, no one has had a full remission. It would be encouraging if i'm wrong, i just hope there are drugs someday that will do this miracle for everyone unlucky enough to have the disease, not just faithful christians getting rewards.

Corso · 07-28-2002, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by cydonia:
<strong>Did the guy have HIV or AIDS though? I thought that if and when HIV became AIDS, no one has had a full remission. It would be encouraging if i'm wrong, i just hope there are drugs someday that will do this miracle for everyone unlucky enough to have the disease, not just faithful christians getting rewards.</strong>

He claimed that he was in the later stages of AIDS in a hospital bed when the so called �miracle� happened. This occured about 10 years ago.

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Albion · 07-28-2002, 02:53 PM

No wonder there's no verifiable documentation, then. It must have been a miracle or a severe case of overactive imagination. That sort of thing hasn't been documented to occur naturally.

cydonia · 07-28-2002, 05:49 PM

Wouldn't it have been all over the news though? Wouldn't christian groups constantly bring it up? Or would the satanic media keep it from being heard?

07-28-2002, 11:32 AM	#1
Corso Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 50	Jesus cures AIDS? A couple weeks ago on The 700 Club, there was a segment about a gay man who became a born again xtian. He says that one day God started to talk to him about the evils of homosexuality and redemption. The guy then found out that he had contracted the AIDS virus and was dying. Then he claims God healed him and is now completley AIDS free and is now living a good hetrosexual xtian life. Has anyone else heard about this story? Has it been reported in the secular press? Can AIDS really go into complete remission?

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07-28-2002, 11:40 AM	#2
ExTheist Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 238	ANOTHER MIRACLE!!!!! I always carry a bullet in my shirt pocket because years ago when somebody threw a Bible at me it bounced off the bullet and saved my life!* *(from and old Woddy Allen book)

07-28-2002, 11:45 AM	#3
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Was it <a href="http://www.ntskeptics.org/1991/1991september/september1991.htm#tilton" target="_blank">this case?</a>

07-28-2002, 12:03 PM	#4
Corso Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 50	Mageth, I don�t think it�s the same case because 1)the guy from the 700 club was white and his name was not Andre. 2) there was no mention of Robert Tilton or his show.

07-28-2002, 12:46 PM	#5
Straight Hate Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4,171	Well... Better Jesus than a virgin, let me just say that.

07-28-2002, 12:50 PM	#6
Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	I don't think it can go into complete remission, but if people are taking the modern drug cocktails the viral load can become practically undetectable by the usual methods. Also, I think that some people with a particular type of viral receptor can live with the virus as long-term nonprogressors for a very long time. But I've never heard of spontaneous remission of a chronic case of HIV infection.

07-28-2002, 12:53 PM	#7
cydonia Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: southern california Posts: 1,002	Did the guy have HIV or AIDS though? I thought that if and when HIV became AIDS, no one has had a full remission. It would be encouraging if i'm wrong, i just hope there are drugs someday that will do this miracle for everyone unlucky enough to have the disease, not just faithful christians getting rewards.

07-28-2002, 02:53 PM	#9
Albion Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: US east coast. And www.theroyalforums.com Posts: 2,829	No wonder there's no verifiable documentation, then. It must have been a miracle or a severe case of overactive imagination. That sort of thing hasn't been documented to occur naturally.

07-28-2002, 05:49 PM	#10
cydonia Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: southern california Posts: 1,002	Wouldn't it have been all over the news though? Wouldn't christian groups constantly bring it up? Or would the satanic media keep it from being heard?

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