britinusa

... then how can you xians be so sure about your precious bible? Perhaps, for some "mysterious" reason of His own, god inspired a pack of lies. Perhaps Moses' Exodus, Noah's Flood, the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, the miracles, the whole she-bang came straight from the mighty imagination of the Big G himself.
You can't have it both ways. You can't insist that the bible is the divine, inspired, crystal clear. 100% accurate word of God, and in the same breath bleat on about His Mysterious Ways when something goes horribly wrong. I'm so sick and tired of hearing that most nauseating of all xian cliches (GWIMW) since 9/11. If I had a dollar (or better sill, a pound) for every time I heard it, I'd be right up there with Bill Gates.
What prompted this post is my growing irritation with xians who criticise positive atheists for the supposed arrogance of our certainties, and yet when it comes to their own absurd beliefs will not budge an inch.
It usually goes something like this: "You're not God, you're not omniscient, you're not omnipresent. You don't possess simultaneous knowledge of every cubic inch of the universe, so how dare you posit the non-existence of god?" Of course, when I turn their own argument on them, they prattle on about "faith".
So I ask our xian friends one question: are you absolutely certain that the bible is the completely true inspired word of god?

babelfish

Good rant, britinusa!

Since no christians are lining up yet to answer your inquiry, I thought I'd just add my humble opinion here.

My opinion is that all intelligent christian fundamentalists do question their faith that the bible is the inspired word of god. My opinion is that some of them go a little insane eventually, if they insist on forcing themselves to continue to believe something they can see with their own eyes is not true.

The fundamentalists who seem the most comfortable in their "faith" are the ones who are perhaps a bit more, I don't want to use the word dense, maybe I'll just say a bit more lacking in imagination.

The bright fundamentalists, the ones who for whatever reason insist upon holding onto obviously false beliefs, often end up becoming angry and defensive when confronted with reality.

Perhaps these people do feel something lacking in their lives, and instead of trying to work it out for themselves, find it easier to turn to a belief in a supernatural being.

Sorry, I seem to have wandered a little from the original question. Here's hoping some actual christians wander by and answer your post!

Jamie_L

When good things happen: God is clearly responsible.

When bad things happen: God works in mysterious ways.

When people do good: God is clearly responsible.

When evil happens: It's free will.

God gets credit but dodges blame. Wish I could do that.

Jamie

WWSD

Can anyone give me the rational for how god was involved in 9/11? Other than the insane Falwell rant. The campus crusade had an article posted on thier website but I have neither the time nor the inclination to track it down and sicken myself by reading it.

Is this rational, whatever it is, also the rational behind earthquakes, hurricanes, iceburgs, and melanoma?

Bree

Our Campus Crusade for Christ said it's because of the whole "God thought His children needed a wake-up call - He wanted us to realise that we were wicked without His Divine-ness" or some sh!t like that.

JL

Can't remember where I read it, but it's been said this discord between a purely good omnipotent god and a reality where bad things happen to innocent people who worship this god leads to this nagging apprehension that the end is near. In other words there is no logical answer.

-DM-

I'll give you the same explanation that I give to Christians regarding "God's" alleged involvement in 9/11:

1.) It is a reasonable assumption that many Christians and their loved ones prayed for the safety of those Christians who went to work that morning in offices in the WTC buildings.
2.) It is a reasonable assumption that many Christians and their loved ones prayed for the safety of those Christians who boarded four United and American airplanes that morning.
3.) It is a reasonable assumption that the Muslim terrorists prayed for the success of their missions that morning.
4.) Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that if "God" was involved at all, "He" showed deference to the prayers of the Muslim terrorists.

--Don--

BigJim

He was busy helping some football player recover from the previous weekend's game and missed the whole hijacking thing.

Arrowman

He-he. Which puts him in the same league as the Mayor of Hiroshima.

"What the f&#k was that?!"

manhattan

Do me a favor and punch one of them in the mouth on behalf of New Yorkers and Northern Virginians, willya? Maybe it will serve as a wake-up call.

Thanks.