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Old 06-09-2003, 08:13 PM   #31
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I mentioned to a 40-something year old woman that a shark, specifically the Whale shark, was the largest fish, and she replied that she thought a blue whale was the largest fish.

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From my notes on his seminar (paraphrased)

"You may think the speed of light is constant, but is it? Suppose a car driving at 60 mph passes you on the side of the road. Relativity tells us that to the driver, light is travelling at 'c'. but to you, light is moving at c+60 mph"

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"You may think the speed of light is constant, but is it? Suppose a car driving at 60 mph passes you on the side of the road. Relativity tells us that to the driver, light is travelling at 'c'. but to you, light is moving at c+60 mph
Hehehe, gimmie a break, Joe! I've had a hard day and laughter hurts at the moment.

I'd forgotten that one.

Hovind has missed his calling. He could have been the top, stand-up comic of our generation. Wait! What am i talking about? Hell, he already is!

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Old 06-09-2003, 11:05 PM   #34
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Henry Morris.

He claimed that canals on Mars were caused by Satan and the archangel Michael warring with each other.

Ruse, Michael. “A Philosopher’s Day in Court”, Science and Creationism. Edited by Ashley Montagu. Oxford University Press, 1984. Page 335.

Also see The remarkable birth of planet Earth. Morris, H. M. Bethany Fellowship, Inc., 1978.
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I grew up a Seventh-Day Adventist and I went
to one of their schools from grades 1-8. They taught us
that what evolutionists believe is that monkeys SPONTANEOUSLY
turn into people. Not that people evolved from monkeys which is itself wrong, but that trained scientists believe that humans are created by springing forth from monkeys. It's so surreal to
think that they actually taught us this. It angers me, too. I need
to corner one of those teachers and ask them why they would
flagrantly lie like that. Obviously they know better.
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Obviously they know better.
That may be overly optimistic..

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Default Re: Hovind in a landslide

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From my notes on his seminar (paraphrased)

"You may think the speed of light is constant, but is it? Suppose a car driving at 60 mph passes you on the side of the road. Relativity tells us that to the driver, light is travelling at 'c'. but to you, light is moving at c+60 mph"

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But it sounds so logical.
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I mentioned to a 40-something year old woman that a shark, specifically the Whale shark, was the largest fish, and she replied that she thought a blue whale was the largest fish.
The local Muslim students association hosted a presentation by a representative of Harun Yahya (a pen name of Adnan Oktar), a Muslim creationist and author of The Evolution Deceit. The presentation was very slick, but relied on the same old tactics: distortions, misinformation, quote-mining, straw men, etc. I was particularly amused by the picture projected for us to see while the speaker lamely tried to "disprove" whale evolution: it was a lovely shot of a whale shark. Nothing said by the speaker suggested that he had any clue that this was a "cold-blooded" cartilaginous fish with five gill slits and no lungs (or even a swim bladder), rather than a "warm-blooded" mammal with lungs and no gill slits. Oh well, at least I got a free copy of the Quran.

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I was chatting with a particularly ignorant creationist one night and the subject broached geology and eventually, erosion.

Realizing that I wasn't exactly dealing with a genius on the subject I attempted to make it simple,and used the grand canyon as an example. I explained erosion, time, strata, etc. and sat back confident in my arguments. Then she destroyed the entire premise of my arguments in one fell swoop when she said "Well if that's true then the niagara falls would have eroded it's way through the whole earth by now and cut it in half!"

I calmly beat my head against my keyboard, and moved on. Surprisingly, I later heard she claimed victory in our "debate".

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"You may think the speed of light is constant, but is it? Suppose a car driving at 60 mph passes you on the side of the road. Relativity tells us that to the driver, light is travelling at 'c'. but to you, light is moving at c+60 mph"

Oh no, you have got to be kidding me. He didn't actually say this, did he?

But then again, from some of the other crazy shit I've heard this ain't so bad.
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