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Ms. Siv · 01-17-2002, 03:57 AM

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Megatron · 01-17-2002, 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by Sivakami S:
<strong>It won't be possible to argue any more (whether) evolution is a fact. It will be completely obvious. </strong>

Obvious facts never fazed the creationists before - I don't see why it would suddenly start working in a few more years with a little more technology... >sigh<

Mageth · 01-17-2002, 07:00 AM

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three4jump · 01-17-2002, 10:17 AM

If Dawkins has become known as a "combative atheist" I won't be surprised to find out that he has become a lightning rod for fundies and YECs. Such as the following nonsense found <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9610/johnson.html" target="_blank">here:</a>
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Behe explains that biochemists are now able to explore part of the insides of that black box, and what they find inside is "irreducible complexity." A system is irreducibly complex if it is "composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning." Life at the molecular level is replete with such systems, and biochemists do not even attempt to explain how any one of them could have come into existence by the Darwinian mechanism. The result of biochemical investigation of cellular mechanisms, according to Behe, "is a loud, clear, piercing cry of 'Design!'"
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I'm sure there are thousands of biochemists exploring Darwinian mechanisms who would dispute this claim. But, since religionists are programmed to swallow nonsense from religious authorities, they will readily quote this little nugget when asked to think or discuss something logically.

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three4jump Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Useless Bay Posts: 1,434	If Dawkins has become known as a "combative atheist" I won't be surprised to find out that he has become a lightning rod for fundies and YECs. Such as the following nonsense found <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9610/johnson.html" target="_blank">here:</a> ------- Behe explains that biochemists are now able to explore part of the insides of that black box, and what they find inside is "irreducible complexity." A system is irreducibly complex if it is "composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning." Life at the molecular level is replete with such systems, and biochemists do not even attempt to explain how any one of them could have come into existence by the Darwinian mechanism. The result of biochemical investigation of cellular mechanisms, according to Behe, "is a loud, clear, piercing cry of 'Design!'" --------- I'm sure there are thousands of biochemists exploring Darwinian mechanisms who would dispute this claim. But, since religionists are programmed to swallow nonsense from religious authorities, they will readily quote this little nugget when asked to think or discuss something logically.

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