admice

check out some of the writings on this site and tell me what you think? How this would or wouldn't 'fit' you?

http://www.aeu.org/

Thanks
admice

never been there

(background: non-religious)

Sound like nice people that I can get along with, but I don't personally feel the need to join a club. It could be good for walk-aways who miss the feeling of fellowship they had in a church.

Eudaimonist

background: nontheist

On the other hand, I am someone who is willing to join a club (mine is the Fellowship of Reason®).

Ethical Culture doesn't 'fit' me because of the following statement from their website:

Ethical Culture is a humanistic religious and educational movement inspired by the ideal that the supreme aim of human life is working to create a more humane society.

As worthy a goal as creating a more humane society may be, I disagree that this is the supreme aim of human life.

Thieving Magpie

I consider myself religious, and to answer your question, I am going to make a snap judgment on the AEU.

First off, I'm not an American, so this doesn't appeal to me.
Secondly, I don't have ethics, so this doesn't appeal to me.
Thirdly, I feel no need to join such a union.. I don't feel the need to join most unions I encounter. It is just that simple.

I have assumed a large number of things about this organization from just the title, but I also feel that I am justified in doing so. My being religious, does, in no way make me more 'American' 'Ethical' or uh.. 'Union-prone/seeking.'

So, there you have it.

admice

was hoping to get greater discourse than this, but thanks for your replies.

btw magpie - everyone has ethics, wether they know it or not. You can't live long before you have to make decisions about behavior (Do I get into the cookie jar even tho I'm not 'supposed' to? Do I tell my parents I got into the cookie jar?). But people use different criteria to determine and sometimes people forget debating themselves about such choices. Even if you're a serial killer you have ethics. I try to be cognizant of mine.

admice

Hey, Eu

Checked out your site. First had to look up the dictionary def of virtue. Was funny virtus is strength, MANLINESS. 4th def was manly strength or courage. (dic is copyright 1966) hehe

Anyway doesn't fit me because I believe I DO have to get involved in the world, and not just improve myself. For example right now I'm reading Sociology paper on modern slavery. I feel compelled to do something. I feel an obligation for social change. Just my choice, is OK if not everyones.

AEU doesn't fit me either, just wanted to see some discussion on it.

tc

wildernesse

hi admice,

Background: Christian

I read your OP and link when you first posted, and I've been reading the site off and on--there's a lot of information there, and I wanted to know more before I said anything.

I don't know that I would join formally, but I did enjoy learning more about Ethical Culture. As far as "fitting" me--I think that it would be a nice fit, from what I've seen so far. Some Christians it may not--but because I can identify with the goals and aspirations of this group, it does for me.

I also don't think that creating a humane society is the most central human issue in our lives. I think that it is a good goal and something that we should all work toward, but I don't think that's the central issue in my life, or really anyone else's.

And, Theiving Magpie, I think that being religious would make you more ethical--in that you have more influence through your religion to apply rules and standards to your life and behavior. As a Christian, treating others with malice is unethical as well as being wrong, and doing something maliciously would be considered sin--something that offends not only the person that I acted against but also God.

Few things benefit from snap judgements, especially regarding unfamilar information.

--tibac

Eudaimonist

Virtues are elements of good moral character, and are described in terms of moral principles, such as honesty, independence, justice, civility, generosity, etc.

No problem. Good luck with whatever group(s) you may join.

Radorth

I spend about $8,000 a year and lots of my time creating a more "humane" society. I wonder what they actually do. I see a lot of nice words. Reminds me of Ingersoll's hyperbole, which he was busy writing while the Methodists were hiding slaves, Oberlin College was busy educating black women for free, and some English fundies were working to get factory labor laws passed overseas. And that was just for that time period. (See my thread Authentic Disciples for more info).

Rad

wildernesse

Well, you can check this page to see the projects that the national group endorses and what individual groups are working on currently.

--tibac