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Toto · 08-04-2002, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by lcb:
<strong>okay toto, you come clean first..then I will!</strong>

What do you think I am hiding from you? I am an atheist, not because I am angry with my father (who was a non-believer) or for any other reason than the lack of evidence. I would be happy to follow a religious belief, but they are all deficient in one way or another. I have no need to distort the record to support my beliefs or lack thereof.

You, on the other hand, claimed to be a neutral observer who picked Christianity on the basis of the discredited Pascal's Wager and thoroughly discredited beliefs in prophecy. You won't even answer the logical arguments in this thread against using prophecy as proof of anything.

oneofshibumi · 08-04-2002, 06:24 PM

Prophesies remind me of a broken clock. And,even a broken clock is right twice a day.

lcb · 08-09-2002, 02:47 PM

not to beat a dead horse.. but 1. no one here has proved that the restoration prophecies were self-fulfilled and 2. after having studied the historical issues here i am convinced that they were not self-fulfilled and 3. i have formed this belief based on my research, study and even original source research, so i dont think i have anything to "come clean" about as to this.I am not expecting anyone here to agree with me but i am being intellectually honest about it.

Kosh · 08-09-2002, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by lcb:
<strong>not to beat a dead horse.. but 1. no one here has proved that the restoration prophecies were self-fulfilled and 2. after having studied the historical issues here i am convinced that they were not self-fulfilled and 3. i have formed this belief based on my research, study and even original source research, so i dont think i have anything to "come clean" about as to this.I am not expecting anyone here to agree with me but i am being intellectually honest about it.</strong>

You are absolutely right. We will all burn in hell. See you in Church. Buh-bye.

lcb · 08-09-2002, 05:52 PM

kosh, did i see your website? werent you a committed christian for a long time? have you ever been sincere but found out you were sincerely wrong? if it happened once could it happen again?

King Arthur · 08-09-2002, 06:08 PM

I found Kosh's website! He's pretty smart!

Go ahead and <a href="http://dammitja.net/other/askkosh.html" target="_blank">Ask the Magic Kosh</a> a question!

lcb · 08-09-2002, 06:13 PM

my friend at Wittengenstein's Net told me about him!

lcb · 08-09-2002, 06:18 PM

ok KOsh, when you were a committed evangelizing christian , how many people did you lead to salvation? and now you are a committed proseltyzing atheist, how many have you convinced to abandon their faith? is it a net gain or net loss, or about even? (how many marriages have you had?)

lcb · 08-10-2002, 12:57 PM

kosh?

Jayhawker Soule · 08-10-2002, 01:26 PM

lcb, is there a point to this pettiness?

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08-04-2002, 06:24 PM	#62
oneofshibumi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 749	Prophesies remind me of a broken clock. And,even a broken clock is right twice a day.

08-09-2002, 02:47 PM	#63
lcb Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: washington d.c. Posts: 224	not to beat a dead horse.. but 1. no one here has proved that the restoration prophecies were self-fulfilled and 2. after having studied the historical issues here i am convinced that they were not self-fulfilled and 3. i have formed this belief based on my research, study and even original source research, so i dont think i have anything to "come clean" about as to this.I am not expecting anyone here to agree with me but i am being intellectually honest about it.

08-09-2002, 05:52 PM	#65
lcb Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: washington d.c. Posts: 224	kosh, did i see your website? werent you a committed christian for a long time? have you ever been sincere but found out you were sincerely wrong? if it happened once could it happen again?

08-09-2002, 06:08 PM	#66
King Arthur Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Camelot Posts: 290	I found Kosh's website! He's pretty smart! Go ahead and <a href="http://dammitja.net/other/askkosh.html" target="_blank">Ask the Magic Kosh</a> a question!

08-09-2002, 06:13 PM	#67
lcb Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: washington d.c. Posts: 224	my friend at Wittengenstein's Net told me about him!

08-09-2002, 06:18 PM	#68
lcb Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: washington d.c. Posts: 224	ok KOsh, when you were a committed evangelizing christian , how many people did you lead to salvation? and now you are a committed proseltyzing atheist, how many have you convinced to abandon their faith? is it a net gain or net loss, or about even? (how many marriages have you had?)

08-10-2002, 12:57 PM	#69
lcb Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: washington d.c. Posts: 224	kosh?

08-10-2002, 01:26 PM	#70
Jayhawker Soule Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,777	lcb, is there a point to this pettiness?

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