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10-03-2002, 07:45 PM

The poet with lyrical vison is inspired for the moment and does not think while inspired. His thoughts are free but because they are free during the inspiration the poet can not rationalize his/her own lyrical poetry.

The Freeman with noetic vision is permanently inspired (if that is what noetic vision means) and therefore is always a Freethinker. He can rationalize lyrical poetry.

The freethinker with hyletic (obscured) vision must always think and only if he is not thinking will inspiration come through.

The freethinker with telec vision is free to think within the bounds of his own dogmatic restrictions.

Sephiroth · 10-03-2002, 09:28 PM

Amos, dictionary.com would like to disagree with you.

Quote:

free�think�er Pronunciation Key (frthngkr)
n.
One who has rejected authority and dogma, especially in religious thinking, in favor of rational inquiry and speculation.

freethinking adj. & n.

Source: The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright � 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

freethinker

\Free"think`er\, n. One who speculates or forms opinions independently of the authority of others; esp., in the sphere or religion, one who forms opinions independently of the authority of revelation or of the church; an unbeliever; -- a term assumed by deists and skeptics in the eighteenth century.

Atheist is an old-fashioned word: I'm a freethinker, child. --Addison.

Syn: Infidel; skeptic; unbeliever. See Infidel.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, � 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

freethinker

n : a person who believes that God created the universe and then abandoned it [syn: deist]

Freethinker isn't a magical word for everything, nor should it be, not that I could actually figure out what you said

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Eudaimonist · 10-04-2002, 05:22 AM

Amos, freethinking refers to the freedom to think, not freedom from thought.

You are talking about freeintuition or freemysticism, if I may coin some words.

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galiel · 10-04-2002, 08:38 AM

Are you sure you don't means the trinity, i.e. "Threefinkers"?

beoba · 10-04-2002, 09:34 AM

dict.org > dictionary.com

Rusting Car Bumper · 10-04-2002, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Eudaimonist:
<strong>Amos, freethinking refers to the freedom to think, not freedom from thought.
You are talking about freeintuition or freemysticism, if I may coin some words.
</strong>

Indeed. Thinking has rules which distinguish it from other activities just like all activities have rules and characteristics which distinguish them from all other activities.

One cannot be said to be a "freethinker" if one beieves that A and not A can be simultaneously true, for example.

DC

10-04-2002, 09:56 AM

So would it have been better if I had called the Gnostic a Freethinker because he has noetic vision? To distinguish an agnostic freethinker (about whom we boast) from an Gnostic Freethinker a distinction must exist and I tried to show this variation with regard to freedom of thought.

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10-03-2002, 07:45 PM	#1
Amos Guest Posts: n/a	We are all freethinkers. The poet with lyrical vison is inspired for the moment and does not think while inspired. His thoughts are free but because they are free during the inspiration the poet can not rationalize his/her own lyrical poetry. The Freeman with noetic vision is permanently inspired (if that is what noetic vision means) and therefore is always a Freethinker. He can rationalize lyrical poetry. The freethinker with hyletic (obscured) vision must always think and only if he is not thinking will inspiration come through. The freethinker with telec vision is free to think within the bounds of his own dogmatic restrictions.

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10-04-2002, 05:22 AM	#3
Eudaimonist Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sundsvall, Sweden Posts: 3,159	Amos, freethinking refers to the freedom to think, not freedom from thought. You are talking about freeintuition or freemysticism, if I may coin some words. [ October 04, 2002: Message edited by: Eudaimonist ]</p>

10-04-2002, 08:38 AM	#4
galiel Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Eastern Massachusetts Posts: 1,677	Are you sure you don't means the trinity, i.e. "Threefinkers"?

10-04-2002, 09:34 AM	#5
beoba Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 699	dict.org > dictionary.com

10-04-2002, 09:56 AM	#7
Amos Guest Posts: n/a	So would it have been better if I had called the Gnostic a Freethinker because he has noetic vision? To distinguish an agnostic freethinker (about whom we boast) from an Gnostic Freethinker a distinction must exist and I tried to show this variation with regard to freedom of thought. [ October 04, 2002: Message edited by: Amos ]</p>

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