scigirl

Exactly! The Christians want it both ways - they want to use the positives of general religion to boost their case, but they never admit that any of the other religions have it right when it comes to important stuff like actual descriptions of God.

If ANY sort of prayer/crystals/voodoo works, than isn't that more of an indication that the brain patterns/behaviors associated with those activities is more important than the actual words of the prayer?

scigirl

mike_decock

No problem. I hope that they can learn from the process of how arsenic works in that form of leukemia to develop drugs that work on other forms.

-Mike...

Nowhere357

IMO yes. Also, irrational belief in the 'supernatural' may counteract any benefit from prayer/crystals, for all I know.

THAT IS WHY my approach is to try and identify common threads, etc, and synthesis a logical and beneficial system.

So far I have: meditation, positive thinking, laughter, and placebos. All of these are backed by research, I think.

Creative visualization helps, IMO, but I can't find studies to support this. I think CV is just positive thinking, with images as well as words.

It occurs to me that strong motivation may help. The strong desire for revenge (for example) seems to help recovery. I wonder if there are any studies about this.

There is the anecdotal story of the long-married couple, one dies, then the other loses 'will to live' and soon dies.

MadKally

*bump* because of a similar topic.

Bumble Bee Tuna

yes, yes, I apologize profusely for commiting one of the deadly sins of forum use and posting a topic when the same topic was on the first page. I am greatly embarassed. After years of forum usage I should know better, non?

-B

Boro Nut

Oh you're a real comfort Kally. I can just see you popping your head round the door saying "Hello Mrs Thomposon, just thought I'd pop by to let you know littlle Tommy is dead. By the way, he hasn't gone to heaven either."

Boro Nut

MadKally

BoroNut,
I don't recall ever seeing you make a serious post before and I don't understand your humor. That wasn't funny. I love my terminal patients and they and their family/friends love me. I never discuss religion or atheism with them. I keep quiet if they pray. I don't anounce my atheism to people on my job. I live in the US don't forget. I'm not cruel Boro. I provide dignity, respect, pain control, as well as psycho-social support for them and sometimes more importantly, their families and friends. We have a whole team of people working on every individual patient. Rev. Joshua was hospice clergy for awhile and I have nothing but respect for him. Not just anyone can handle watching their terminal patients die. I do anything and everything possible to help them at the end. I continue to see the family after the death for months to help them through the grieving process. This is the only website where I've been able to speak freely and show my anger at this xian country and my screwed up family. BTW Boro I go to my patients homes. I don't work in a hospital setting. Patients seem to prefer dying at home with as much dignity and respect as possible.

Kally

keyser_soze

Don't take boro seriously, no one does. He's here for comic relief. :banghead: But sometimes, I know how you feel.

MadKally

Many people in the UK think he is hysterically funny. I think I laughed once. ( a little chuckle) I do not understand his brand of British humor and I don't want to.. The above post he made was just downright cruel. In my opinion of course.

Baloo

I often deal with some of the gruesome truths of our existence with a dose of humor. I could even see boro's sentiment popping into my own head, and internalizing a guilty chuckle. For me, it's a defense mechanism of sorts.

However, I could never see myself ever being so callous and thoughtless as to express it as he did here. Nor can I respect anyone else's decision to do so.

Just my .02.