ex-xian

[Looks at pile of demon-vomit on the ground] Cool!

Darwin26

Uhhhhhhhhhh NO

that is the mustard for the fishes and loaves

get thee away from the chow line satan

... also a minor discrepencie...by omission. ya see, nobody eats a dry piece of bread with a dead fish without some kinda sauce or spread... this is one of the apocraphyole discrepencies... not often refer'd to by bible scholars... however studies are being performed on the peculiar cuisene... deadfishsand ...

Wayne Delia

Actually, I spend much of my time on alt.atheism on usenet.

Once you wrote me that you weren't "truly happy" until you let go of the 'weight' that God was (words to that effect).

I'm afraid that doesn't address any of the questions I asked you in my previous post about your surgery, and I am honestly interested in your answers, if you are brave enough to address the questions.

Of course you're happy - you no longer experience the constant struggle that exists between the flesh and the spirit since you have now delivered yourself to one side only.

It would seem to be that I have "delivered myself" (whatever that means) to the only side that can be actually shown to exist. What's wrong with that? And why are you avoiding all the questions about the spiritual implications of the surgery on your flesh?

Your state of sublime bliss is perfectly understandable, WMD - enjoy it while it lasts.

How did you make the unreasonable leap from "happy" to "sublime bliss?" It's bad enough you're running away from the questions about the spiritual aspects of your surgery.

Truly, you never understood one iota of God's wisdom and, hence, here you are.

Evidently, you don't understand it either, because if you did, then you'd be able to explain the answers to questions I raised in my previous post, such as:

1. Did your HMO approve the situation of you placing your surgery "in God's hands?"

2. Suppose the surgeon was not Christian? How is the chain of command established in that case?

3. Would God use a non-Christian surgeon as a puppet to ensure the successful surgery you hope for - thus removing the surgeon's free will to potentially screw up your operation?

4. In case of an emergency situation arising during surgery, is the non-Christian surgeon supposed to wait and listen for orders from the God of some religion other than his?

5. Would a Christian surgeon be expected to wait for inspiration from Allah, or expect to be controlled by Allah, if she was operating on a Muslim patient?

6. Why do Christian surgeons need to rely on medical surgical procedures and instruments when Mark 16:17-18 clearly states Jesus promises that Christians would have the power to heal any illness simply by laying on of hands.

7. Wouldn't any Christian be able to heal you much more cheaply and less intrusively, or do you not believe Mark 16:17-18?

8. How would you account for any number of failed procedures by Christian surgeons operating on Christian patients?

I'm back to IIF to complete what I had promised but, after reading all of the posts submitted while I was away, it'll be nice to move on.

I don't blame you for running! Some questions are just too difficult to answer, and it's much harder here to change the subject, isn't it?

WMD

Jorge

Originally posted by ex-xian

Ok. I'll just let your own words speak for themselves:

Yes, let's do that.

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"Tell me, exactly how many years of serious, dedicated study do you have under your belt on the subject of Bible "discrepancies and errors"? Ten years? Twenty? Fifty? How many times have you read the Bible cover-to-cover? Ten? Twenty? Fifty?

What's that you say? None? One?"

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Let me clue you in, ex-xian - do you see all those question marks at the end... you know, question marks - those funny squiggly lines with a dot at the end.

Those question marks indicate QUESTIONS and indicate that one is ASKING, not asserting.

Asserting would have been more like "No one here has read the Bible at all so you don't know anything about it." Maybe an 'exclamation mark' would have been used after that assertion.

But let's not complicate or confuse matters. I'll cover exclamation marks after you've mastered question marks - in about a month or two.

Jorge

Wayne Delia

I'd enjoy my religion of atheism much more if the Internal Revenue Service actually recognized it as a valid religion. Would you mind giving them a call and asking why they don't consider it eligible for income and property tax exemptions, which are given for pretty much all other established religions? I'm sure you think you're correct, so could you please straighten them out for all of us?

WMD

Jorge

Originally posted by Wayne Delia

I'm afraid that doesn't address any of the questions I asked you in my previous post about your surgery, and I am honestly interested in your answers, if you are brave enough to address the questions.

If you are truly "honestly interested" then you may feel free to contact me by email and ask. Here it would be a waste of my time and I don't go for 'grandstanding'.

I don't blame you for running! Some questions are just too difficult to answer, and it's much harder here to change the subject, isn't it?

Six-year olds are usually enticed by accusations of "scary cat" or "so, you're running away". I didn't realize that you were in that age group - sorry.

But I'm not. You want answers? Seek them out. Otherwise, as I said before, enjoy yourself while you can. I assure you, it'll be a lot sooner than you think.

Jorge

viscousmemories

Whoohoo! Whoa, buddy. He nailed you on that one, ex-xian. I'm sorry but... *vm wipes his brow* man. That was harsh. I mean, that part about the question mark and the exclamation point... damn. That's gotta hurt. It's too bad that you got him all riled up like that, 'cause I bet he was just about to lay into us, tearing us open with his exceptional scholarship and exposing us for the vile hypocrites we are, but you had to go and set him off on that punctuation thing. Dagnabit.

I know how it is too, believe me. Every once in a while I'll be in a heated debate on one or another really important scientific subject, when my opponent will misuse a word or something and BAM! that does it. I can't even concentrate anymore 'cause it's all about that stupid grammatical error. I can't stand grammatical errors! So even when everyone in the audience is boo'ing and hissing and telling me to get back on the subject of the debate, I just have to keep harping. Keep pointing out every little blunder my opponent makes, because I want people to see him as I do, not as the 'expert' he pretends to be! So what if he actually does know more about the subject than me? So what if he easily points out that I haven't, in fact, made a single point at all? Did you hear him? He clearly said 'their' when he meant 'they're'. I'm sure of it.

ex-xian

I find it difficult to believe you're actually trying to make me believe you weren't trying to imply that people didn't read the bible. In saying "What's that you say? One? None?" your sarcasm is obvious. I never said you explicitly made the comment, only that you indicated it. Here a few more quotes from you implying that people at II are ignorant about the bible.



Oh yeah, I also found these:

Anyone who reads how you've responded to me in the past few posts could see how decietful these statements are. It's interesting that the xian is the one hurling sarcastic insults.

Darwin26

WHEN DO i GET a DISCREPANCY WHEN WHEN WHEN?

Jesis Mary and Joseph, Jorge, will you spit it out and quit beating around the bush ....just tell me in simple words*a discrepancy* ..i won't nail you for punctuation like the other radical Un-Believers in here, they're so pedantic...

ex-xian

in case you missed it before...

[Jorge on Judgment Day] Yes! Look at all the sinners burn! You believe now don't you? Hahahaha![/Jorge on Judgment Day]