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"Some of the plants buried during the Flood are not fossilized either. In New Jersey, large amounts of wood from trees that were growing at the same time as dinosaurs can be found in the dirt (Cretaceous clay). They are preserved, but not turned to stone at all. In England, fragile plant hairs and tiny details of the plant's cells can be seen. The plants are not turned into rock. They are just flattened and blackened."

Plants turn into rock? Since when?

Duvenoy

I especally liked this part:

Fire up the skillet, I just found a trout fossil!

Where do people come up with such nonsense? Is our system of education really this pathetic?

doov

scombrid

Considering that I do not even have my MS yet and still find myself having to "dumb it down" while at the gym, yes.

Duvenoy

I hear ya. It's a bitch, ain't it?

But on a brighter note, some students actually read for recreation, and not just pulp fiction and Jack Chick tracts (the pulpiest fiction of all). I think that somewhere, there is another Gould, another Darwin, on his/her way, studying with a great curiosity and driving instructors to distraction with questions.

Wishing luck with your studies and the jocks be damned.

Edited to demonstrate my own lack of understanding of the art of spelling.

doov

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MrDarwin

I'm not sure what particular fossils they're referring to in New Jersey but they are confusing "fossilized" with "turned to stone". This is indeed one of the major forms of fossilization: all organic material is replaced with inorganic minerals, or "turned to stone" (e.g., petrified wood). (But this is NOT the same as hats or boots being encrusted by lime when left in a cave for a few years--yet another common misconception of YEC's!)

What they apparently don't realize is that this is only one form of fossilization, and that carbon impressions or traces are another common form of fossil (of which coal is the extreme example).

Camaban

It appears that he also doesn't know the difference between rocklike, and rock, calcium, and rock, etc.

Ok, I know the reasonings behind their mentality, but I seriously still can't grasp is properly (When I try to think with the same mentality, I simply can't do it, I can't even really BEGIN to imagine how they do it. So amazingly alien)