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03-05-2003, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
. A great deal of the behavior that is considered religious is seen as neurotic when taken on it's own merits.

Is that maybe because what we call heaven is an altered state of consciousness? Don't forget that the journey of life takes place in our own mind, and, like everything else, we must bloom where we are planted.

It seems that in this journey we move towards a crisis moment and the outcome of this must bring change --or there was no crisis-- which will either be an enduring happy end, or it will be a tragic end.

Yellum Notnef · 03-05-2003, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by thebeave
Once in a while I participate in a BBS on 4x4 truck repair, and this guy from Mississippi was writing that he was having a starting problem, and he ended up trying about 20 things to solve it. He mentioned that he even said the rosary, in the hopes that would help. Another guy wrote in and said "LOL" or "that's a good one" in response to the rosary comment, and the Mississippi guy wrote back very angry and defensive. He was serious about having said the rosary for his truck problem! I mean, c'mon now is that the stupidest thing you've ever heard?

Not the stupidest thing I`ve ever heard,but pretty damn close.

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everyone knows Jesus was a carpenter NOT an auto mechanic! Now if the guy was having a problem cutting accurate miter joints...

Not according to a priest on the Catholic channel the other night. He was trying to clear up some "misconceptions" about the story of Jesus and said that he was most likely a simple construction worker.

I wonder if that means Jesus could walk on wet cement without leaving footprints.

03-05-2003, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by alli
The rosary is a nightmare....especially having to say all of it.....especially when you're only 10....I really hated saying it. It's pure torture nothing else.

Oh, you poor thing, you! "Say all of it" ?? (I remember that one myself). What puzzles me is how you got to be such a sweet girl with no sweets and so much torture.

Tabula_rasa · 03-05-2003, 03:26 PM

Repetition is a form of meditation. Many religions use repetition for the purposes of blocking out all other thoughts so that the pray-er can focus on god.

Personally, I see meditation as a good thing regardless of any religious context, as it has a calming influence. So, if people perform meditation unwittingly I'm all for it

Tabula_rasa

Born Free · 03-05-2003, 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
Oh, you poor thing, you! "Say all of it" ?? (I remember that one myself). What puzzles me is how you got to be such a sweet girl with no sweets and so much torture.

Me sweet??? LOL well thanks Amos for being nice but I'm not sweet at all

Well okay sometimes I can be....anyways yes the whole thing every single day whenever I was staying in Ireland during the school summer holidays which was actually nearly every year.

That's every single day for about 6 weeks the whole thing, it's no wonder I've got housemaids knee that still hasn't cleared up to this day.

Actually that's not funny so I don't know why I'm laughing, I break out in a cold sweat whenever I see a pair of rosary beads.

Born Free · 03-05-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Tabula_rasa
Repetition is a form of meditation. Many religions use repetition for the purposes of blocking out all other thoughts so that the pray-er can focus on god.

Personally, I see meditation as a good thing regardless of any religious context, as it has a calming influence. So, if people perform meditation unwittingly I'm all for it

Tabula_rasa

Mediatation??? Saying a rosary can quite literally induce a coma

03-05-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by alli

That's every single day for about 6 weeks the whole thing, it's no wonder I've got housemaids knee that still hasn't cleared up to this day. .

By "Jesus, Mary and Joseph," that's a lot of rosaries, and enough to put anybody in a coma!! We did maybe a couple in May and some whenever somebody was seriously ill in the neighborhood.

Loki · 03-05-2003, 08:22 PM

Being a Catholic Atheist, I still have a few of those pesky things floating around. I use them when I can't fall asleep because Ifind that the repetition and being able to occupy a couple of fingers is calming and eventually sleep-inducing.

I want to make a fuzzy rosary and have someone hang it from their rear-view mirror.

Jackalope · 03-05-2003, 11:19 PM

hah.

I made a set out of black cut glass beads with brass skulls for the "our father" beads. And a little brass mexican charm with a skeleton in a casket instead of a crucifix. I think I even went so far as to do sets of 13 beads instead of 10. I found the blasphemy extremely theraputic.

Thor Q. Mada · 03-05-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Biff the unclean
The sets are for keeping count. They are kept track of by the Rosary which is a set of prayer beads. Prayer beads were common in classical days from the Eastern Mediterranean to Nepal. They evolved into the abacus in China.
In Greece they were widely used by the "Mystery Cults" most notably the worshipers of Dionysos. Today they are called "worry beads" there.
The repetition of prayers to Mary date from the Middle Ages and their mysticism movements. They aren't related to the Buddhist prayer wheels but are closely related to Buddhist mantras.

All Christians (until the reformation) bowed their heads at the mention of Jesus or God. It was a Roman custom for slaves to bow their heads when their master's names were spoken to show subservience.
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Hi Biff,

I am afraid something is wrong here. The abacus is a bit older than the rosary!!
Just to put things in the right order: people where counting their money already before religion took its toll!!

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03-05-2003, 03:26 PM	#14
Tabula_rasa Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East of Dumbville, MA Posts: 144	Repetition is a form of meditation. Many religions use repetition for the purposes of blocking out all other thoughts so that the pray-er can focus on god. Personally, I see meditation as a good thing regardless of any religious context, as it has a calming influence. So, if people perform meditation unwittingly I'm all for it Tabula_rasa

03-05-2003, 08:22 PM	#18
Loki Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of hippies and fog Posts: 2,075	Being a Catholic Atheist, I still have a few of those pesky things floating around. I use them when I can't fall asleep because Ifind that the repetition and being able to occupy a couple of fingers is calming and eventually sleep-inducing. I want to make a fuzzy rosary and have someone hang it from their rear-view mirror.

03-05-2003, 11:19 PM	#19
Jackalope Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hayward, CA, USA Posts: 1,675	hah. I made a set out of black cut glass beads with brass skulls for the "our father" beads. And a little brass mexican charm with a skeleton in a casket instead of a crucifix. I think I even went so far as to do sets of 13 beads instead of 10. I found the blasphemy extremely theraputic.

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