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Jimmy Higgins · 08-01-2003, 06:04 AM

The poster pretty much said this:

God will witness to you, but if you don't follow him, he may use you to make others follow him. Like I heard this one time a stubborn person wouldn't believe in god, but he was killed and that led people around him to god.

So now its Pascal's Wager, but now its more about being terminated during life rather than just hell. Anyone else get this argument thrusted upon them?

Mister Impossible · 08-01-2003, 06:26 AM

If anyone used that arguement to me, I would have to take it as a serious death threat and alert the authorities.

08-01-2003, 06:42 AM

Anyone up for a game of Crusades?

JerryM · 08-01-2003, 12:19 PM

So the argument is if I don't accept God, something bad might happen to me to serve as an example for others? If that's correct, it's ridiculous. How many bad things have happened to devout Christians--car crashes, illnesses, murders, etc? Maybe that's because Zeus, or Mithras, or Allah is showing what happens to non-believers.

mark9950 · 08-01-2003, 05:06 PM

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So the argument is if I don't accept God, something bad might happen to me to serve as an example for others?

To all those victims in the twin towers?

Straight Hate · 08-01-2003, 08:31 PM

...Oh, that's okay - some street-corner preacher told me I had 'free will' so my ass is safe.

joedad · 08-01-2003, 09:40 PM

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Mister Impossible
If anyone used that arguement to me, I would have to take it as a serious death threat and alert the authorities.

Why? Christianity stands on two pillars � hedonism and violence, and every christian must make a choice. Heaven is the ultimate act when it comes to hedonism. Hell is the ultimate act of violence. As all christians are bound for one or the other, and there being nothing more, this ultimately directs all personal behavior. Sad but accurate, so stop being surprised.

08-01-2003, 06:04 AM	#1
Jimmy Higgins Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Proud Citizen of Freedonia Posts: 42,473	A new argument for belief in God? The poster pretty much said this: God will witness to you, but if you don't follow him, he may use you to make others follow him. Like I heard this one time a stubborn person wouldn't believe in god, but he was killed and that led people around him to god. So now its Pascal's Wager, but now its more about being terminated during life rather than just hell. Anyone else get this argument thrusted upon them?

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08-01-2003, 06:26 AM	#2
Mister Impossible Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 298	If anyone used that arguement to me, I would have to take it as a serious death threat and alert the authorities.

08-01-2003, 06:42 AM	#3
Relative Newcomer Guest Posts: n/a	Anyone up for a game of Crusades?

08-01-2003, 12:19 PM	#4
JerryM Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 1,100	So the argument is if I don't accept God, something bad might happen to me to serve as an example for others? If that's correct, it's ridiculous. How many bad things have happened to devout Christians--car crashes, illnesses, murders, etc? Maybe that's because Zeus, or Mithras, or Allah is showing what happens to non-believers.

08-01-2003, 08:31 PM	#6
Straight Hate Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 4,171	...Oh, that's okay - some street-corner preacher told me I had 'free will' so my ass is safe.

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