Magus55

It doesn't mean that God can't be a man, it says - God isn't a man that should lie. Humans lie and always change their mind, God doesn't. Jesus never lied , therefore God being Jesus isn't restricted by this because Jesus was a man that didn't deceive. Jesus also didn't repent because he didn't commit any sin. Any other son of man would have had to repent to God - but not God himself. If you notice it was written as a parable.

And news for you - Messianic Judaism is growing greatly and is now accepted in Israel. More and more Jews are realizing that Jesus really is the Messiah prophesized in the OT. And Jesus was present in the OT - just because alot of Jews miss that part, doesn't mean it wasn't in the OT. The Trinity is first shown in Genesis.

Magus55

Well for Gentile Christians, its the roots of their faith and where it all started. Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. As for me, I'm both Jewish and Christian - so they are both important to me.

Howard

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Biff the unclean

I must say that it always seems ridiculous to me when the Prods on this board try to figure out why Catholics do things. 'Why don't they hate and despise that sinful Mary like good Christians should.'
For over twelve hundred years there were nothing but Catholics and Eastern Orthodox. Then you guys rejected Christianity and invented your own religion that you pretend is Christianity but it has different rules.
Hey that's okay with me. But don't try to pretend that the original rules are off. You are the one's who changed them not the RC's

emotional

Who, in turn, changed the original rules of Judaism. All those laws given the Hebrew Bible (conveniently called "Old Testament") were spliced off like garbage. Yes, they did that to what the book calls "God's eternal laws".

Later the Protestants had the same thing done on their religion, when the Mormons brought the "Restored Gospel" - A New New Testament. The Muslims did the same with their Qur'an - another New Revelation that does away with the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Evangelium).

It's fun being a religion-watcher. One can see speciation over long ages, as in real life. Evolution of religion by natural selection. Though all religionists hold to an idea of religious creationism, or revelationism, that their religion was created in a flash of revelation. But the truth is that evolution is everything.

emotional

You can't be both Jewish and Christian. It's an either/or decision. Judaism doesn't have Jesus, Crucifixion Atonement or Trinity in it, else it is Christianity. "Jews for Jesus" and "Messianic Jews" are just deceptive names for Christians, in an effort to convert gullible, uneducated Jews.

The more educated the Jew is in Judaism, the less chance there is that he'll convert to Christianity. What kind of Jewish household did you come from, Magus? Surely not Torah-observant. Myself, I'm not from a Torah-observant family, but I did undergo a period when I observed Orthodox Judaism.

emotional

Ah, I seem to be following the posts backwards...



It says there לא איש אל (lo 'ish 'el), which plainly means "God is not a man". If it meant to say just that God cannot lie, it would say God cannot lie. The text speaks very plainly: both that God is not a man, and that He cannot lie.



Yeah, really accepted, as in "repeatedly banned by court decisions". Messianic Judaism is officially recognised in Israel as a Christian missionary sect and is given the same treatment as other missionary sects - the law in Israel forbids missionary activity between religions.



Not anyone I know. Many acquaintances of mine have had a change of lifestyle in which they turned from secular Jews to Orthodox Jews (or vice versa), but I've never had anyone who became a Messianic Jew.

You're probably referring to the plural in "Let us make a man in our image". That's really old stuff, man. Rashi, the greatest commentator of the Torah, said the plural means God was talking to the angels as an example of humility and courtesy.

Amos

You've got that right. Jesus was a Jew and became Christian at which time he was no longer a Jew. This same is true for Catholics who will no longer be Catholic when they become Christian. This makes religion a means to the end (which is the condition of being called Christian) and makes Christianity an end to religious observation, eg. "son of man has no place to lie his head." The only difference here is that protestant religions don't see it that way and they want to be enslaved to religion for life.