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Old 03-18-2003, 12:21 PM   #71
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Deb, the answer is

the product's fault*

(* If you are 3 years old)

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My son does this all the time. He makes a bridge out of play-dough and it collapses. He says, "Stupid bridge!".
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I have started a new thread on the topic of God's perfection and the first "perfect humans gone bad".

Look forward to your response to this conondrum.
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Exactly ! I will add to this in answer to Magus. How do you have a guarantee this won't happen again in heaven? God blew it once so where is the guarantee?
Free will allows perfection to make a wrong choice. I'm not using perfection in the same terms you are apparently. Adam and Eve were perfect in that they were created how God intended humans to be. No hard work, lived in paradise, no disease, sickness, pain suffering, sadness etc., and they had the free will to make their own choices. Thats perfection of creation. God is the ultimate definition of perfection which is how you are describing it, God CANNOT make a mistake by his own nature of perfection, creation can because they were given the ability to do it, the choice of whether to act on that ability was theirs and theirs alone.
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That was really rude.
How so? It shows how much I care - you want to be with your precious god, don't you? I'm offering you a solution.

Just kidding. It was a pretty low blow from me.
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Free will allows perfection to make a wrong choice. I'm not using perfection in the same terms you are apparently. Adam and Eve were perfect in that they were created how God intended humans to be. [...]. Thats perfection of creation. God is the ultimate definition of perfection which is how you are describing it, God CANNOT make a mistake by his own nature of perfection, creation can because they were given the ability to do it, the choice of whether to act on that ability was theirs and theirs alone.
You people would be a lot more coherent if your vocabularies were bigger.

Most writers will agree that using the same word with two different meanings in the same sentence is no way to carry on a communication.

The trouble with relying on one book for all of your prose is that your vocaulary never has a chance to grow.
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You people would be a lot more coherent if your vocabularies were bigger.

Most writers will agree that using the same word with two different meanings in the same sentence is no way to carry on a communication.

The trouble with relying on one book for all of your prose is that your vocaulary never has a chance to grow.
Oh, so now we are insulting my vocabulary? Lol, atheists are just so efficient. Sorry, i was trying to use small words so maybe it would sink into your thick head...
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Oh, so now we are insulting my vocabulary?
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Lol, atheists are just so efficient. Sorry, i was trying to use small words so maybe it would sink into your thick head...
The irony and hypocrisy is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
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I apologize for being insulting. But I was actually being quite serious.

You used the same word twice in a sentence and expected us to deduce two different meanings from it.

Isn't that kind of nuts?
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The irony and hypocrisy is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
That was the point.
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I apologize for being insulting. But I was actually being quite serious.

You used the same word twice in a sentence and expected us to deduce two different meanings from it.

Isn't that kind of nuts?
Ok, fine ill use more applicable terms. Adam and Even were created uncorrupt and sinless. They possessed all the good qualities we have now, but none of the bad until they disobeyed.
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