faustuz

What, exactly, is the topic? It started out as a proclamation that we should all start arguing about religion. You then proceeded to argue about religion. Finally, in a recent post, you claimed that you really only wanted to talk to atheist that want to “expel Christians as a movement altogether”. (Why didn’t you state this in the first place? You would have received fewer, if any, responses and saved yourself much grief).

You have made several statements to the effect that you consider the Christian world view superior to the secular world view. If you don’t think it is valuable to argue about religion, my recommendation is simply, don’t do it. If you do think it’s valuable, say as much. That is all I ask.

Oh, and one more thing. If you are going to be a Christian apologist, please do so without all the window dressing.

AmbiguousUbiquity

No harm intended. I wasn't calling you a liar (though in looking back at my posts I can see how you came to that conclusion), just simply pointing out that for someone who seems to want to "agree to disagree", you seem to be getting some satisfaction out of pushing buttons.

But to answer your question....would I like it if Christianity ceased to exist? Sure. But that holds true for every religion/cult out there, not just majority factions. But even though my wish is to have a non-theistic society, I have no intention of making it so. It's not my place to tell others what to think and how to feel. I think that most of the atheists you will encounter here will not have an agenda to expel Christianity, but rather, to point out flaws of religions that those followers seem to ignore, and to show that maybe there are other possible scenarios to our existence other than what is written in a book.

Magus55

Nope, because we were told to use the Bible to search out any false doctrines and claims. If it isn't in the Bible, its false.

Magus55

I'm a fundamentalist of Christianity, and take the Bible literally, yet you'll never see me blowing up buildings or killing people in God's name. Islam extremists, yes I can see as dangerous because the Quran directly encourages Jihad and killing the enemy, Jesus doesn't.

Magus55

And how do you consider this "tolerance"? Isn't that what atheists are trying to teach us Christians? Wanting to get rid of religion isn't tolerance. We believe in God, you don't. Christianity will never cease to exist.

brighid

Unless you felt that God spoke to you and told you to blow up buildings and kill people in His Name ... or perhaps if you were convinced by a charismatic leader that God was speaking directly to Him and God desired you to blow up buildings and kill people ... and hence the danger of believing in an imaginary being that speaks to people, but whose words cannot be verified.

Brighid

Mageth

Nope, because we were told to use the Bible to search out any false doctrines and claims. If it isn't in the Bible, its false.

You do realize, I hope, that it was Catholics (gasp) that decided which books were canonical and to be included in the Bible and which were apocryphal or even heretical and thus were not to be included? And that settled the matters of several doctrinal controversies in the church to agree basically with what you believe now?

(See The First Council of Nicaea)

Godless Dave

"Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

emotional

Fundamentalists, whether they be Christians or Muslims or Hindus, are all cut from the same cloth. And the cloth is this: all would kill if God told them to!



Both Christianity and Islam condone dichotomial hatred. Us vs Them. Good vs Evil. God vs Satan. "You are of father, Satan" - that's what the NT says about those who don't believe in Jesus.

I'd rather err on the side of caution. In my country, people are killed EVERY DAY because of religion.

Mageth

Maybe not. He appears to prefer to wait for them to die and then chunk them into hell to suffer for eternity. More bang for the buck that way.