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Old 02-05-2003, 01:54 PM   #1
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Just wondering what you guys think about this.

Did the early humans, that could not communicate verbally, had no knowledge about religion, and no bible, go to heaven?? Think about it? And what arguments could a religious person make on this topic?
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Ahh but you see these early people are just figments of your imagination.
Fantasies if you will, like Dinosaurs, Goblins and Eskimos.
The bible only talks about people that could communicate and understand God, thus they must be the only people to have existed.

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Some of 'em don't even believe in dinosaurs, let alone cavepeople.

Wouldn't that make an interesting heaven, though? Get to meet our ancestors in person! Oh, or would that in 'in spirit'?
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One day a long time ago, Satan planted all those bones and created cave art to fool us modern day humans into thinking that we evolved from an earlier primate. It's a test of our faith in Christianity. There were no cavemen... it all started with Adam and Eve just like the Bible says, remember?

Now, if you'll excuse me for a moment...

[Close eyes and begin meditative chant]
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
Must....not...let....caveman....evidence...impact. ..God...belief
[Open eyes and end meditative chant]

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Just wondering what you guys think about this.

Did the early humans, that could not communicate verbally, had no knowledge about religion, and no bible, go to heaven?? Think about it? And what arguments could a religious person make on this topic?
Maybe, but only if they were Catholic. Heaven is religion specific and so it would be wrong to assume that non-Catholics can go there or you would find Buddhist in heaven against their own will.
 
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Amos, by saying Heaven is "religion specific", are you saying that there are multiple Heavens? Or do ONLY Catholics go there?

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So I wonder if all the cavemen and early humans just got a free ride into heaven? Or perhaps a freeride to hell? I would love to have a preist answer this question, of course I would make sure no little boys were around first.(sorry I could not resist)
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Maybe, but only if they were Catholic...
Somebody's been ignoring his Jack Chick cartoons, hasn't he?
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Thatīs actually rather interesting.

We assume evolution as a gradual process: humans evolved from animals through tiny genetic changes.

Not, if Iīm not mistaken, animals donīt have soul (at least by the catholic and various other cults over there) AND either you have a human soul or donīt have (thereīs no concept such as "slightly more human soul") So, at some point in the evolutionary process, a caveman had have a soul but his fathers didnīt, although they were (almost) as human as their son.
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Amos, by saying Heaven is "religion specific", are you saying that there are multiple Heavens? Or do ONLY Catholics go there?

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Yes, except that Buddhist call it Nirvana and the Greeks called it the Elysian Fields. Each mythology will have its own genesis, its own collection of taboes and it own name for the same final destination.

In Christendom this destination is called heaven and within heaven we have various levels of understanding but that remains available to Catholics only. Protestants will have their own idea of heaven but they must physically die to get there and so I do not know much about that one.
 
 

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