Amie

Hi Reasonable Doubt,
I cant seem to connect to the link you gave me. Some say 4500 some say 5000, I have several dates here, all would be inconsistent with archaeology. I need to go to my theology professors on this one and pinpoint it a little better. I want to discuss it with them since the dates I have are clearly contradicting one another, I would rather get some assistance from my professors since I will have to run any potential archaeological information through them. I believe I may have to use the UCLA library as a possible source, either way if I do that, I will surely let you know. This may move things along quicker if I can also link into the Claremont School of Theology texts as opposed to actually reading them in their entirety simply to make this quicker and some of my texts are up in my loft and I think it would be easier if you could actually see what I am referring to in some of these books as opposed to hearing about it.If I do that, you'll get the link. Reasonable doubt, is there possibly another link I could get to read that and give you my feedback. I would like to answer you the best that I can.
Love
Amie~

seanie

Remember this?

Could you cut to the chase?

Kosh

OK, so to summarize that long post by Amie... "Godidit". As I suspected. How about evidence Amie?

Also, a question, if I can do so without you labeling me as "rude". (That's the beauty of this forum, we aren't afraid to ask the rude questions that Christianity has historically kept under wraps). Is English your first language? Because it seems that your use of it is atrocious, with phrases like "scientifical informations". Good thing you aren't teaching English!

Edited to fix my atrocious use of English.

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Found Alan Ask's site that covers aspects of biology and geology from a Creationist slant. He didn't respond to an email so don't bother doing the same. Makes for interesting reading. I say interesting because unless you know the other side's argument, how can you state your own?
Must say it makes for lots of furrowed brow looks.

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Infinity Lover

For those who expect Amie to spend every waking hour to get you those answers yesterday. Arrange a replacement teacher, pay her bills and get her a timemachine, or take a pill.

Sorry to hear about the stupid mails. The recycle bin's to good for some. (I'd never deny people their right to exist, but that doesn't nessecarily mean I approve of the way they exercize that right).

Marcel.

Amie

yeah I sent an e-mail about the sea floor spreading and I got no response. It does make for interesting reading. I am looking for a link specifically on geology in that site, the one I have was not working.
Amie

seanie

Amie

You've told us you're going to 'prove' that The Flood happened.

Given the apparent confidence of your assertion I kinda assumed you'd already given the matter some considerable thought. That you had a line of argument already worked out.

Now I appreciate you might want to do more research and check references in order to bolster your case.

But in the meantime could you give us an outline of your argument? Just a broadbrush indication of what you regard as the most salient points? What's in those science books that the rest of us seem to have missed?

Jayhawker Soule

Hi, Amie:
I went back and tried the link and it works for me. Sorry you're having a problem. Here is a another reference: <a href="http://www-relg-studies.scu.edu/netcours/hb/dh/" target="_blank">The Documentary Hypothesis</a>. You might also beinterested in <a href="http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=0I8KEZ75XV&isbn=0060630353" target="_blank">Who Wrote the Bible</a> by Richard Elliott Friedman.

Be that as it may, I am somewhat more interested in your date estimates, and I frankly do not understand your difficulty. Please understand that I'm looking for an estimate only. To suggest a couple of dates ±1000 years is perfectly acceptable.

Amie

You know Seanie,
sometimes it is difficult to convey my thoughts and my stance to a group of people who do not and will never know me. Provig a flood is not the difficult thing, I think to some extent everyone here knows that some sort of flood happened. I could be wrong in someones view, but it seems to me that geological evidence supports a flood. Some say regional, I say global. That is a big part of this, in determining that, the rest may follow suit. I think the reason why people find it so improbable is they disbelieve the idea of a global flood and furthermore the idea that all of the animals can fit on one boat seems far fetched, but according to the dimensions of the boat, I see it entirely possible. None of us can know the exact amount of animals species back then, we can speculate. Now I need to go read up on the remains at Mt. Ararat...
Now Seanie, I will say this once I find you to be condescending and that is not conducive to any type of discussion.
Amie