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Carrie · 04-21-2003, 04:03 PM

My friend has started dating a guy in prison, in Terre Haute Indiana, a maximum security prison hours away from here. The same place that held Tim McVeigh and the Unibomber.

This guy was imprisoned for robbing banks, which is a federal offense. He became a Christian (again) while in prison. He wasn't one while he was out robbing banks. During that time he had decided to turn his back on the Lord (whatever). Isn't that convenient? Then go back to the Lord when you can't rob banks anymore! Hmmm.

It's just funny that my friend will date him because he's a Fundamentalist Christian, like she is. As if this is a redeeming quality, and makes it all okay. So not only is this guy in prison, but he's a brainwashed nut! That's definitely not a guy I'd want to date. Becoming a Fundie X-tian just makes it worse. He couldn't change his ways without wimping out and relying on a fake religion.

Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all. He's not even getting out for 10 more years. But she's spending all her free weekend time traveling down there and visiting him. I think she's wasting her time. I think he'll dump her once he gets out. He probably just likes that someone is visiting him. She's probably just glad that someone will date her. But hey, maybe the Lord will work it out!

Viti · 04-21-2003, 04:11 PM

Please tell her to be careful! I had a friend in high school who decided to start a Prison Ministry when she was 18...she met and fell in love with a felon. When he got out, he broke his parole somehow and both of them ended up in a standoff with police in Utah. He shot her then himself. She was 19 years old

hezekiah jones · 04-21-2003, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Carrie
Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all.

I'm surprised they allow beer in this prison.

Spaz · 04-21-2003, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all.

Yes, perhaps self esteem is the culprit. I've known girls like that who would date anybody that paid attention to them. Is there any way to get her to date somebody else? Don't leave it to "the Lord" that's for sure.

And to LadyShea: a

for the girl and a

for the guy

sakrilege · 04-21-2003, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Carrie
This guy was imprisoned for robbing banks

From the Bureau of Justice, Recidivism of Prisoners Released in 1994, is some bad news for your friend,

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Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

sourdough · 04-21-2003, 06:02 PM

someone once said;
its better to love and lose than never to love at all

pariah · 04-21-2003, 06:45 PM

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Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all. He's not even getting out for 10 more years. But she's spending all her free weekend time traveling down there and visiting him. I think she's wasting her time. I think he'll dump her once he gets out. He probably just likes that someone is visiting him. She's probably just glad that someone will date her. But hey, maybe the Lord will work it out!

umm...i dont know if its just me, but it sounds like he is going to her. i wouldnt be surprised if pretty soon she is going to be smuggling in ciggarettes and porn, then cocaine..."oh no, some guys are going to rape me and turn me into an abomination!! you have to help me, please bring in a copy of 'huge titzzz' for me"

maybe thats a bit of an exxageration of what he will say...but i woudlnt be surprised if something like that happened.

Bree · 04-21-2003, 08:05 PM

I think this would be better suited to SL&S.

Babylon Sister · 04-22-2003, 10:19 AM

Does she have money? Her own or access to or the possiblilty of coming into some? That's always a good target.

Just how does one "date" a prisoner? Unless the prison has a pretty loose visitation policy, there can't be very much romance in talking to each other over a phone thru a 1 inch thick piece of plexiglass.

I read a lot of true crime and probably know WAY more about robbers, rapers, murders, serial killers, etc. than I really need to, but I have never been able to figure out what goes on in the heads of the women who fall for these guys. I've read about the "I know MY love can change him" and the "he's not bad, he's just misunderstood" and the myriad schools of thought in the same vein, but how can these women really believe them? Is loneliness really that big a problem in this country?

(Forgive the rambling....)

atheistdave · 04-22-2003, 12:35 PM

According to an aquaintance who served some time, convicts sweet talking fat girls on the outside is quite common. They do this to get money, drugs, and anything else. They use the ladies insecurities against them and make them feel special. Ususally they will clean out a bank account before moving on to another girl. Once released the gals will never hear from them again. My aquaintance was shocked and he has been around the block a time or two.

Of course as we all suspect, becoming a xtian in prison is a ploy to show everyone how much the ofender has changed for the better. If I was on a parole board I would deny parole for everyone who tried that scam.

Tell your friend to run and stay away from this SOB before he hurts her even further.

04-21-2003, 04:03 PM	#1
Carrie Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 424	My Christian friend is dating a man in prison My friend has started dating a guy in prison, in Terre Haute Indiana, a maximum security prison hours away from here. The same place that held Tim McVeigh and the Unibomber. This guy was imprisoned for robbing banks, which is a federal offense. He became a Christian (again) while in prison. He wasn't one while he was out robbing banks. During that time he had decided to turn his back on the Lord (whatever). Isn't that convenient? Then go back to the Lord when you can't rob banks anymore! Hmmm. It's just funny that my friend will date him because he's a Fundamentalist Christian, like she is. As if this is a redeeming quality, and makes it all okay. So not only is this guy in prison, but he's a brainwashed nut! That's definitely not a guy I'd want to date. Becoming a Fundie X-tian just makes it worse. He couldn't change his ways without wimping out and relying on a fake religion. Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all. He's not even getting out for 10 more years. But she's spending all her free weekend time traveling down there and visiting him. I think she's wasting her time. I think he'll dump her once he gets out. He probably just likes that someone is visiting him. She's probably just glad that someone will date her. But hey, maybe the Lord will work it out!

04-21-2003, 04:22 PM	#3
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Re: My Christian friend is dating a man in prison Originally posted by Carrie Another thing that's weird is that this guy is good looking, and he's "dating" my friend who is like 300 pounds and not good looking at all. I'm surprised they allow beer in this prison.

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04-21-2003, 04:11 PM	#2
Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	Please tell her to be careful! I had a friend in high school who decided to start a Prison Ministry when she was 18...she met and fell in love with a felon. When he got out, he broke his parole somehow and both of them ended up in a standoff with police in Utah. He shot her then himself. She was 19 years old

04-21-2003, 06:02 PM	#6
sourdough Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: one nation under-educated Posts: 1,233	someone once said; its better to love and lose than never to love at all

04-21-2003, 08:05 PM	#8
Bree Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Twin Cities, USA Posts: 3,197	I think this would be better suited to SL&S.

04-22-2003, 10:19 AM	#9
Babylon Sister Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wyoming Posts: 894	Does she have money? Her own or access to or the possiblilty of coming into some? That's always a good target. Just how does one "date" a prisoner? Unless the prison has a pretty loose visitation policy, there can't be very much romance in talking to each other over a phone thru a 1 inch thick piece of plexiglass. I read a lot of true crime and probably know WAY more about robbers, rapers, murders, serial killers, etc. than I really need to, but I have never been able to figure out what goes on in the heads of the women who fall for these guys. I've read about the "I know MY love can change him" and the "he's not bad, he's just misunderstood" and the myriad schools of thought in the same vein, but how can these women really believe them? Is loneliness really that big a problem in this country? (Forgive the rambling....)

04-22-2003, 12:35 PM	#10
atheistdave Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Dana, IN USA Posts: 225	According to an aquaintance who served some time, convicts sweet talking fat girls on the outside is quite common. They do this to get money, drugs, and anything else. They use the ladies insecurities against them and make them feel special. Ususally they will clean out a bank account before moving on to another girl. Once released the gals will never hear from them again. My aquaintance was shocked and he has been around the block a time or two. Of course as we all suspect, becoming a xtian in prison is a ploy to show everyone how much the ofender has changed for the better. If I was on a parole board I would deny parole for everyone who tried that scam. Tell your friend to run and stay away from this SOB before he hurts her even further.

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