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Douglas J. Bender · 11-05-2002, 05:07 PM

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Bluenose: Ok, [almost time for my nap] a few more:
Bender = 288....

WOOwwwwwww.... If that doesn't convince me, nothing will.

In Christ,

Douglas

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Douglas J. Bender ]

Douglas J. Bender · 11-05-2002, 05:17 PM

By the way, if one used a 7-based system instead, then all instances of "666" in the 6-based system become 777. Kind of begs the question of which should be used, and how one could tell.

In Christ,

Douglas

Douglas J. Bender · 11-05-2002, 05:19 PM

Apikorus,

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You can get anything you like with this methodology.

With the "x-based" system, yes. But not with the Hebrew/Greek numbering system.

In Christ,

Douglas

Apikorus · 11-06-2002, 12:10 PM

What do you mean by "x-based"?

With a consonantal language like Hebrew, it is even easier to make the numbers mean anything you like.

Douglas J. Bender · 11-06-2002, 01:45 PM

Apikorus,

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What do you mean by "x-based"?

Substitute "x" with your choice of any of the nine non-zero digits. With such a system, changing from one digit to another can change the result completely, so that the opposite occurs (666 to 777, 777 to 666, etcetera).

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With a consonantal language like Hebrew, it is even easier to make the numbers mean anything you like.

How so? Just because there are no vowels? Why would that make a difference? Besides, I didn't say just Hebrew, I also mentioned Greek, which is not "consonantal", if I understand what you mean by "consonantal" (having no vowels).

In Christ,

Douglas

[ November 11, 2002: Message edited by: Douglas J. Bender ]

Living Dead Chipmunk · 11-06-2002, 02:48 PM

Well, we know his opinion about Catholics...
Dumbass - 474
A Charlatan - 474
Con Mans - 474 (in homage to the horrid grammer

)
Cheaters - 474
A Phoney - 474
and then
Vatican I - 474

Apparently he has no opinion on Vatican II.

Was trying to come up with some other Christian/Bible related words that added up to 474, but I gave up.

The man also seems to have a bit of a superiority complex himself:

Branson - 498
Shepherd - 498

11-07-2002, 09:34 AM

Hey 'Dead Chipmunk'--
Where do you get those numbers from?
I am just curious,because of your reference to Catholicism?
Keep in mind that #473 is the official number for the "antiChrist" or "instead of" Christ in the Greek section of Strong's Bible Concordance.
(And #500 also.)
I'm sure Douglas can vouch for this.

Also...
474=Mother,Virgin,loving,sinner,Yeshua
774=Compassionate
498=Yahshua,wisdom,Bread of Life,baptism
798=Living Word

792=Roman Catholic and Douglas Bender

Now if Doug doesn't believe it he never will!

Also...
780=George W. Bush
780=Europe(480)+America
780=The Beast(480)+America
7800=Theitist member number--

666=A Chipmunk
666=A Apikorus

[ November 07, 2002: Message edited by: Theitist ]

Nightwalker · 11-08-2002, 06:17 PM

Found a couple more....

Simon Peter = John Baptist = 804
Foe of YHWH = 666

Anyone else think this is too freaky to be a coincidence???

EDIT: Joshua, another way to translate Jesus' name, also adds up to 444.

[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nightwalker ]

Nightwalker · 11-08-2002, 09:39 PM

And a few more....

Disgusting = 774
Tempted = 498
Diaspora = 498
Joseph Stalin = 888
Heaven = 330
Firmament = 594
Zoro = 444
Fucker = 384
Shithead = 444
Destruction = 888
Hebrew = 366
Constantine = 804
Caesar Nero = 804
Bottomless Pit = 1110
Heaven And Hell = 666
Allah = 204
Aliens = 360
Revealed Code = 594
Attis = Mithra = Whore = Jeremiah = 414
Contrived = 660
Sex = 288
Corrupt = 666
Burden = 384 = Korean
Abandoned = 360
Adam and Eve = 420 (maybe they were potheads? ;p )
Free of will = 666 (kinda bad for the free-will argument, eh? ;p)
Ronald Reagan = 660 = Forgetful
King of the World = The second Comming = 1002
Bob Dole = 330
Bible Not Sacred = 774
Servant = 594
Omnipresent = 804
Nuclear = 444
Nuclear Warhead = 804
Famine = 288
Burn = 330
Christian = 606
Soul Killer = 804
The Law = 414
Tanakh = 330
Archangel = 414
Mithraism = 660 = Attisism
Eleusius (as in the elusinian mysteries) = 666
Oracle at Delphi = 774
The Blind = 444
Son = 288
Africa = 228
God of the Bible = 660
Buddist = 474
Hate = 204
Nebuchadnezzar = 888
Dark = 204
The Dark Ages = 594

BTW Bender, the jewish gematria system also had some what were called finals.... they were 5 characters used to represent larger numbers, and were counted as having a different value when found at the end of a word. For example, in Hebrew N = 50 usually, but when in it's final form, N = 700. This rule didn't exist in Greek gematria, at least so far as I know.

EDIT: Sorry for the foul language in this post, but i was typing in anything and everything

2 more i found interesting...

Iraqi Leader = 594
Morning Star = 888 (remember, "Morning Star" allegedly refers to Lucifer, c/o Isaiah I think). Kind of interesting that Jesus was referred to as the morning star in Revelation. Oh, and Lucifer = 444 too. Might it tie in to this? <a href="http://www.revelationjesuschrist.com" target="_blank">http://www.revelationjesuschrist.com</a>

[ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nightwalker ]

-RRH- · 11-08-2002, 11:18 PM

Well, I'll apologize in advance about the length of this post. I wanted to be thorough.

accordingly = 666
amusement = 666
buttocks = 666

calculation = 666
compensate = 666
competent = 666
computer = 666
concernfor = 666
convergence = 666
corporate = 666
criterion = 666
deceleration = 666
evacuation = 666
exception = 666
executor = 666
formation = 666
formulate = 666
helicopter = 666
highlighter = 666
honourable = 666
isthatso = 666
iteration = 666
linguist = 666
livelihood = 666
majority = 666
milkingshed = 666
morepork = 666
pedestrian = 666
peninsula = 666
pictures = 666
plaitmats = 666
protract = 666
recovery = 666
relatives = 666
revision = 666
significant = 666
slaughter = 666
speciation = 666
strength = 666
syllabus = 666
teletext = 666
unoccupied = 666
velocity = 666
waistcoat = 666
whatabout = 666
witchcraft = 666

according = 444
acquire = 444
adequate = 444
advocacy = 444
antennae = 444
artefact = 444
attained = 444
beauty = 444
between = 444
blouse = 444
bottle = 444
bruise = 444
carving = 444
clarify = 444
connect = 444
cooking = 444
cross = 444
dandruff = 444
delighted = 444
dialogue = 444
discharge = 444
donkey = 444
drown = 444
eighty = 444
element = 444
energy = 444
english = 444
error = 444
finished = 444
flagpole = 444
follicle = 444
foreign = 444
fruit = 444
gospel = 444
granite = 444
harddisk = 444
headlight = 444
heavens = 444
hexagon = 444
holiday = 444
hundred = 444
increase = 444
jury = 444
likely = 444
lounge = 444
measles = 444
melanoma = 444
methanal = 444
nuclear = 444
obedient = 444
objects = 444
organs = 444
parent = 444
parts = 444
pendant = 444
penny = 444
photo = 444
pinnacle = 444
point = 444
pollen = 444
prize = 444
proud = 444
prune = 444
pupil = 444
quota = 444
ranking = 444
refuse = 444
repeated = 444
ruler = 444
sailor = 444
salmon = 444
sarcasm = 444
scanner = 444
shearer = 444
shingle = 444
shirt = 444
shoals = 444
simple = 444
songs = 444
spur = 444
strap = 444
suite = 444
swarm = 444
takeplace = 444
takeup = 444
tearing = 444
tempt = 444
washer = 444
weapon = 444
widow = 444

11-07-2002, 09:34 AM	#17
hastalavista2u Guest Posts: n/a	Hey 'Dead Chipmunk'-- Where do you get those numbers from? I am just curious,because of your reference to Catholicism? Keep in mind that #473 is the official number for the "antiChrist" or "instead of" Christ in the Greek section of Strong's Bible Concordance. (And #500 also.) I'm sure Douglas can vouch for this. Also... 474=Mother,Virgin,loving,sinner,Yeshua 774=Compassionate 498=Yahshua,wisdom,Bread of Life,baptism 798=Living Word 792=Roman Catholic and Douglas Bender Now if Doug doesn't believe it he never will! Also... 780=George W. Bush 780=Europe(480)+America 780=The Beast(480)+America 7800=Theitist member number-- 666=A Chipmunk 666=A Apikorus [ November 07, 2002: Message edited by: Theitist ]</p>

11-08-2002, 06:17 PM	#18
Nightwalker Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Louisville, KY, USA Posts: 8	Found a couple more.... Simon Peter = John Baptist = 804 Foe of YHWH = 666 Anyone else think this is too freaky to be a coincidence??? EDIT: Joshua, another way to translate Jesus' name, also adds up to 444. [ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nightwalker ]</p>

11-08-2002, 09:39 PM	#19
Nightwalker Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Louisville, KY, USA Posts: 8	And a few more.... Disgusting = 774 Tempted = 498 Diaspora = 498 Joseph Stalin = 888 Heaven = 330 Firmament = 594 Zoro = 444 Fucker = 384 Shithead = 444 Destruction = 888 Hebrew = 366 Constantine = 804 Caesar Nero = 804 Bottomless Pit = 1110 Heaven And Hell = 666 Allah = 204 Aliens = 360 Revealed Code = 594 Attis = Mithra = Whore = Jeremiah = 414 Contrived = 660 Sex = 288 Corrupt = 666 Burden = 384 = Korean Abandoned = 360 Adam and Eve = 420 (maybe they were potheads? ;p ) Free of will = 666 (kinda bad for the free-will argument, eh? ;p) Ronald Reagan = 660 = Forgetful King of the World = The second Comming = 1002 Bob Dole = 330 Bible Not Sacred = 774 Servant = 594 Omnipresent = 804 Nuclear = 444 Nuclear Warhead = 804 Famine = 288 Burn = 330 Christian = 606 Soul Killer = 804 The Law = 414 Tanakh = 330 Archangel = 414 Mithraism = 660 = Attisism Eleusius (as in the elusinian mysteries) = 666 Oracle at Delphi = 774 The Blind = 444 Son = 288 Africa = 228 God of the Bible = 660 Buddist = 474 Hate = 204 Nebuchadnezzar = 888 Dark = 204 The Dark Ages = 594 BTW Bender, the jewish gematria system also had some what were called finals.... they were 5 characters used to represent larger numbers, and were counted as having a different value when found at the end of a word. For example, in Hebrew N = 50 usually, but when in it's final form, N = 700. This rule didn't exist in Greek gematria, at least so far as I know. EDIT: Sorry for the foul language in this post, but i was typing in anything and everything 2 more i found interesting... Iraqi Leader = 594 Morning Star = 888 (remember, "Morning Star" allegedly refers to Lucifer, c/o Isaiah I think). Kind of interesting that Jesus was referred to as the morning star in Revelation. Oh, and Lucifer = 444 too. Might it tie in to this? <a href="http://www.revelationjesuschrist.com" target="_blank">http://www.revelationjesuschrist.com</a> [ November 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nightwalker ]</p>

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11-05-2002, 05:17 PM	#12
Douglas J. Bender Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Elkhart, Indiana (USA) Posts: 460	By the way, if one used a 7-based system instead, then all instances of "666" in the 6-based system become 777. Kind of begs the question of which should be used, and how one could tell. In Christ, Douglas

11-06-2002, 12:10 PM	#14
Apikorus Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,396	What do you mean by "x-based"? With a consonantal language like Hebrew, it is even easier to make the numbers mean anything you like.

11-06-2002, 02:48 PM	#16
Living Dead Chipmunk Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 312	Well, we know his opinion about Catholics... Dumbass - 474 A Charlatan - 474 Con Mans - 474 (in homage to the horrid grammer ) Cheaters - 474 A Phoney - 474 and then Vatican I - 474 Apparently he has no opinion on Vatican II. Was trying to come up with some other Christian/Bible related words that added up to 474, but I gave up. The man also seems to have a bit of a superiority complex himself: Branson - 498 Shepherd - 498

11-08-2002, 11:18 PM	#20
-RRH- Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,047	Well, I'll apologize in advance about the length of this post. I wanted to be thorough. accordingly = 666 amusement = 666 buttocks = 666 calculation = 666 compensate = 666 competent = 666 computer = 666 concernfor = 666 convergence = 666 corporate = 666 criterion = 666 deceleration = 666 evacuation = 666 exception = 666 executor = 666 formation = 666 formulate = 666 helicopter = 666 highlighter = 666 honourable = 666 isthatso = 666 iteration = 666 linguist = 666 livelihood = 666 majority = 666 milkingshed = 666 morepork = 666 pedestrian = 666 peninsula = 666 pictures = 666 plaitmats = 666 protract = 666 recovery = 666 relatives = 666 revision = 666 significant = 666 slaughter = 666 speciation = 666 strength = 666 syllabus = 666 teletext = 666 unoccupied = 666 velocity = 666 waistcoat = 666 whatabout = 666 witchcraft = 666 according = 444 acquire = 444 adequate = 444 advocacy = 444 antennae = 444 artefact = 444 attained = 444 beauty = 444 between = 444 blouse = 444 bottle = 444 bruise = 444 carving = 444 clarify = 444 connect = 444 cooking = 444 cross = 444 dandruff = 444 delighted = 444 dialogue = 444 discharge = 444 donkey = 444 drown = 444 eighty = 444 element = 444 energy = 444 english = 444 error = 444 finished = 444 flagpole = 444 follicle = 444 foreign = 444 fruit = 444 gospel = 444 granite = 444 harddisk = 444 headlight = 444 heavens = 444 hexagon = 444 holiday = 444 hundred = 444 increase = 444 jury = 444 likely = 444 lounge = 444 measles = 444 melanoma = 444 methanal = 444 nuclear = 444 obedient = 444 objects = 444 organs = 444 parent = 444 parts = 444 pendant = 444 penny = 444 photo = 444 pinnacle = 444 point = 444 pollen = 444 prize = 444 proud = 444 prune = 444 pupil = 444 quota = 444 ranking = 444 refuse = 444 repeated = 444 ruler = 444 sailor = 444 salmon = 444 sarcasm = 444 scanner = 444 shearer = 444 shingle = 444 shirt = 444 shoals = 444 simple = 444 songs = 444 spur = 444 strap = 444 suite = 444 swarm = 444 takeplace = 444 takeup = 444 tearing = 444 tempt = 444 washer = 444 weapon = 444 widow = 444

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