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Mageth · 02-22-2003, 04:06 PM

One teacher objected to the presentation because it was occurring at a public institution, according to some at the assembly. The teacher did not return phone calls seeking comment yesterday.

Is it just me, or does this sound distinctly different from the actions of Mr. X reported by the student in the OP? If he really stormed the platform as reported by the student, it seems like the newspaper would have phrased it differently than merely "objected to".

GaryP · 02-22-2003, 06:33 PM

You may be right.

Although, it may be that the Dispatch just doesn't want to stir up local sensibilities.

The article does not disclose the teacher's name either.

ybnormal · 02-22-2003, 07:11 PM

Letter to Editor in Friday edition of Delaware Gazette... don't know how long it will remain... I copied it but assume I can't post it's full text.

Teacher halted prayer at Hayes FCA assembly

Feather · 02-23-2003, 04:30 AM

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It seems that our supposed freedom of religion is upheld now only to protect those who want to be free from religion. Those with religious beliefs are constantly reminded to keep quiet so as not to offend the non-religious.

Well, I am offended that I have to practically keep my religion a secret. I can not and will not separate my beliefs from the rest of my life.

:boohoo:

:boohoo:

Yeah. It's not like our society is suffused with religious imagery or anything. It's just us evil atheists oppressing the dirty religious people. Cuz we have such a huge powerbase to do so, y'know. :banghead:

trunks2k · 02-23-2003, 03:28 PM

MY biggest question about this (just to put the final nail in the coffin) is whether or not school funds were used to bring the FCA to the school. ANY school funds at all. If yes, than it is flagrantly unconstitutional. If no, then the school at least has a tiny bit to stand on, but I doubt they would win.

echoes · 02-23-2003, 04:07 PM

***ATTENTION***

The person I quoted in my initial post is at risk of getting in some trouble for mentioning the teachers name and he actually found out about this thread. He has asked me to edit out the teachers name, but I am unable to edit my post at this point. I would like to ask a moderator or administrator to edit the name out of every post in which it appears (I have also emailed webmaster@iidb.org ) Also, please do not mention his name in any new posts... Thank you.

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Originally posted by trunks2k
MY biggest question about this (just to put the final nail in the coffin) is whether or not school funds were used to bring the FCA to the school. ANY school funds at all. If yes, than it is flagrantly unconstitutional. If no, then the school at least has a tiny bit to stand on, but I doubt they would win.

I don't know about any funding specifically for the assembly, but janitors who set up and cleaned up the facility had to be paid, and teachers were still paid their normal salaries, as though it were a normal work day.

Toto · 02-23-2003, 06:44 PM

I have edited out the teacher's name per your request, so your Christian friend can't blame you when he gets in trouble.

I would like to hear the teacher's side of the story.

echoes · 02-23-2003, 08:21 PM

Thanks a lot Toto.

Lol, he was actually very apologetic about it.

Toto · 02-23-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by echoes
Thanks a lot Toto.

Lol, he was actually very apologetic about it.

Does "he" refer to your friend or the teacher?

Hayden · 02-24-2003, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Toto
I have edited out the teacher's name per your request, so your Christian friend can't blame you when he gets in trouble.

I would like to hear the teacher's side of the story.

How about tracking him down, somehow, nudge nudge

, and inviting him here to tell his story?

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02-22-2003, 04:06 PM	#21
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	One teacher objected to the presentation because it was occurring at a public institution, according to some at the assembly. The teacher did not return phone calls seeking comment yesterday. Is it just me, or does this sound distinctly different from the actions of Mr. X reported by the student in the OP? If he really stormed the platform as reported by the student, it seems like the newspaper would have phrased it differently than merely "objected to".

02-22-2003, 06:33 PM	#22
GaryP Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, OH Posts: 1,792	You may be right. Although, it may be that the Dispatch just doesn't want to stir up local sensibilities. The article does not disclose the teacher's name either.

02-22-2003, 07:11 PM	#23
ybnormal Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 430	Letter to Editor in Friday edition of Delaware Gazette... don't know how long it will remain... I copied it but assume I can't post it's full text. Teacher halted prayer at Hayes FCA assembly

02-23-2003, 03:28 PM	#25
trunks2k Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 6,997	MY biggest question about this (just to put the final nail in the coffin) is whether or not school funds were used to bring the FCA to the school. ANY school funds at all. If yes, than it is flagrantly unconstitutional. If no, then the school at least has a tiny bit to stand on, but I doubt they would win.

02-23-2003, 06:44 PM	#27
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I have edited out the teacher's name per your request, so your Christian friend can't blame you when he gets in trouble. I would like to hear the teacher's side of the story.

02-23-2003, 08:21 PM	#28
echoes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: PUERTO RICO Posts: 750	Thanks a lot Toto. Lol, he was actually very apologetic about it.

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