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Old 11-13-2002, 12:28 AM   #111
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i was just hypothesizing that maybe prostitutes spend a lot of time giving head to guys who are too scared to ask their wives or have been turned down.
In many cases this may be true however from the male pov it is more important that the one giving the head does not appear reluctant to do so, i.e enthusiasm (even if feigned) plays a large part in the enjoyment factor. I would much prefer the woman to instigate the act than having to ask for it!

Maybe it has more to do with the societal attitudes to sex in that a wife or girlfriend may be more restrained (i.e not wanting to appear too willing for fear of being thought sluttish by her partner)?

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In many cases this may be true however from the male pov it is more important that the one giving the head does not appear reluctant to do so, i.e enthusiasm (even if feigned) plays a large part in the enjoyment factor. I would much prefer the woman to instigate the act than having to ask for it!

Maybe it has more to do with the societal attitudes to sex in that a wife or girlfriend may be more restrained (i.e not wanting to appear too willing for fear of being thought sluttish by her partner)?

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Why are wives thought of as so prudish! I am a wife, I love giving head, I offer it to my husband often and am quite enthusiastic about it. This goes back to my argument on another thread. Why marry someone who can't or won't satisfy your needs and why marry someone you can't be honest with about your needs and desires? I don't get it.

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Why marry someone who can't or won't satisfy your needs and why marry someone you can't be honest with about your needs and desires? I don't get it.

Cause you thought they'd change. By the time you realized they did not want to change, all sorts of other financial, familial and emotional entangelments make it difficult to admit that one is unsatisfied with the relationship.
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Old 11-13-2002, 04:32 AM   #114
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Why are wives thought of as so prudish!

I dunno, it is a societal thing, probably the Victorian's fault.

I am a wife, I love giving head, I offer it to my husband often and am quite enthusiastic about it.

Good for you (and him ), but although this is becoming more common now only a few years ago you would be in a small minority.

This goes back to my argument on another thread. Why marry someone who can't or won't satisfy your needs and why marry someone you can't be honest with about your needs and desires? I don't get it.

Maybe because you don't find out until after the wedding?

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Old 11-13-2002, 09:09 AM   #115
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Cause you thought they'd change. By the time you realized they did not want to change, all sorts of other financial, familial and emotional entangelments make it difficult to admit that one is unsatisfied with the relationship.</strong>
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Okay, this I definately understand. I know that a lot of people, both male and female, think that they can change their partner or expect that their partner will change. I also can imagine how painful it would be to be madly in love with someone only to discover that there is a little problem in bed. It seems to me that it is easy to imagine that problem becoming smaller and smaller until it seems to hardly matter at all and love conquers all, right?

Honestly, I doubt very seriously I could decide not to marry someone over such a thing as blowjob frequency. I still hold that it is big mistake to ignore sexual incompatibility when deciding who to spend the rest of your life with, but I admit that I have been a bit harsh on those lokking through rose tinted love goggles.
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The conventional thinking consists that sexually frustrated men or men who are scared shitless to ask their wives or men who have been turned down, cater to prostitution. Women rejoice in this proposition. However, I find that strangely pretentious, almost as if their bed skills supersede those of the professional.

Furthermore, I've witnessed a ubiquitous tendency in people to confuse the emotional with the physical. They fiddle on communication, honesty, open-mindedness - the old conviction that husbands and wives should touch-feel each other and vent their sexual reservations over a cup of tea. They subscribe to the fallacy of consequent: if the husband desires to sleep with a prostitute, then the wife has the capability to fulfill this desire. Perhaps without comprehension that men (on some subconscious level) need to penetrate as many wombs as possible?

Here's another thread to consider: One of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties. True or false?
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luna - would you like to expand on that not that i don't appreciate the unqualified criticism...
Sorry to do the hit'n'run thing yesterday - I've been feeling a bit lazy in the ol' brain over the last few days.

Anyway, in my experience 99% of the men are very eager to please. They want you to tell them what YOU like, and are happy to be lead. So it's not a case of just getting head without having to return the favour at all. I for one used to be quite demanding and I found that would arouse the guys more than anything. I can only speak from my own experiences (and bear in mind I haven't had a lifetime of hooking!) but it seemed to me that part of the attraction was that the guys weren't under pressure to 'take the lead' as may be the case in more traditional sexual/romantic relationships. They were happy (mostly) to just let us take the lead while they followed.
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Sorry to do the hit'n'run thing yesterday - I've been feeling a bit lazy in the ol' brain over the last few days.

Anyway, in my experience 99% of the men are very eager to please. They want you to tell them what YOU like, and are happy to be lead. So it's not a case of just getting head without having to return the favour at all. I for one used to be quite demanding and I found that would arouse the guys more than anything. I can only speak from my own experiences (and bear in mind I haven't had a lifetime of hooking!) but it seemed to me that part of the attraction was that the guys weren't under pressure to 'take the lead' as may be the case in more traditional sexual/romantic relationships. They were happy (mostly) to just let us take the lead while they followed.</strong>
Telling them what you want and telling them to do it illustrates, in no uncertain terms, that you are into it. Enthusiasm for sex, and for him is across the borad the biggest turn on to all the men I have had the pleasure of speaking to about this. My husband tells me that what men really want is for women to want it and them. For instance, if I ask him if he wants to go to bed he appreciates my interest in him. If I tell him that I want to go to bed, he'll be, uh, ready before he gets the bedroom. My interest in sex is what gets him going.

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"The attraction was that the guys weren't under pressure to 'take the lead' as may be the case in more traditional sexual/romantic relationships."

Amen!
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1. Running may or may not be fun.
2. Running may (or may not) prove emotionally or physically damaging.
3. For something to be bad, it must cause harm to someone.
4. Running may or may not be enjoyable for those involved.

Therefore:
Running may or may not be bad.

Of course, running isn't immoral. YOU accept any emotional damage or physical damage when you get a prostitute or agree to become a prostitute, because YOU know the risks, so any emotional or physical damage is purely your fault. Any immorality(like intentionally spreading an STD), isn't and shouldnt be connected with prostitutions morality.
 
 

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