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Correct way to rule out Christianity
I often heard ppl saying that God doesn¡¦t exist just because that they do not see the hand of the God lying far above the sky or there is no any scientific evidence for proving such a claim. Though I am an atheist, I would consider the scientific approach to rule out Christianity is not possible. Consider that so called scientific approach is based on observation, hypothesis, experiment, conclusion, actually every step of scientific approach requires us to believe in them. For example, for past few centuries, people believe that mass of an object and time frame is always constant and would not change anyway, so then Newton developed Newtons¡¦ mechanics which virtually explain all the motion and dynamics within the universe. But this was eventually being proved wrong by Albert Einstein who claim that mass of an object and also the relative time would change once it is moving, though to a very small extent and this phenomenon would be only prominent once the object reaches the speed of light. In this way, we would know that our experience is not entirely reliable and sometimes may mislead us into the wrong conclusion. For observation part, we depends on our experience to set some premises to construct our scientific theory, this part involves u to believe in ur experience and u can never prove ur premises, eg in the above case, we observe the mass would always maintain constant within in enclosed system. So we propose that the conservation of mass premise, which is actually wrong as our experience is not accurate enough. So to prove an scientific theory, we require both deduction and belief. Anything that proved by science is not necessarily true.
What I want to say is that even if something like God is proved to exist, it doesn¡¦t mean that it is necessarily to exist in reality. Also, as our experience and science are so limited, no evidence of God existence doesn¡¦t mean necessarily that God doesn¡¦t exist. [for a joke, u would claim that alien doesn¡¦t exist just because u have not seen an alien for ur entire life. Is it a good reason? U just have limited experience on the Earth only, u have not explored the entire universe and find out that alien doesn¡¦t exist] So if we try to use science to prove the non-existence of God, we can never get our desired result. Christian would claim that they believe in the premise that God exists just like how u believe in the premises in the scientific theory. They would call it faith in God¡K¡K. For me, I think the best weapon to rule out Christianity is based on their bible. To point our that their bible is full of contradictory statement. So the incoherent nature of the bible indicates that the existence of God described in bible is not possible. If their God is so perfect, how come the bible is full of faults? Here are some lists of contradictory belief in bible: ON THE SABBATH DAY "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy." -- Exodus 20:8 "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." -- Romans 14:5 ON THE PERMANENCY OF THE EARTH "... the earth abideth for ever." -- Ecclesiastes 1:4 "... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." -- 2Peter 3:10 ON SEEING GOD "... I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." -- Genesis 32:30 "No man hath seen God at any time..."-- John 1:18 ON HUMAN SACRIFICE "... Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God..." -- Leviticus 18:21 [In Judges, though, the tale of Jephthah, who led the Israelites against the Ammonoites, is being told. Being fearful of defeat, this good religious man sought to guarantee victory by getting god firmly on his side. So he prayed to god] "... If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands, Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD's, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering" (Judges 11:30-31). [The terms were acceptable to god -- remember, he is supposed to be omniscient and know the future -- so he gave victory to Jephthah, and the first whatsoever that greeted him upon his glorious return was his daughter, as god surely knew would happen, if god is god. True to his vow, the general made a human sacrifice of his only child to god!] -- Judges 11:29-34 ON THE POWER OF GOD "... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26 "...The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19 ON DEALING WITH PERSONAL INJURY "...thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. " -- Exodus 21:23-25 "...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." -- Matthew 5:39 ON CIRCUMCISION "This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised." -- Genesis 17:10 "...if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." -- Galatians 5:2 ON INCEST "Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..." -- Deuteronomy 27:22 "And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...." -- Leviticus 20:17 [But what was god's reaction to Abraham, who married his sister -- his father's daughter?] See Genesis 20:11-12 "And God said unto Abraham, As for Sara thy wife...I bless her, and give thee a son also of her..." -- Genesis 17:15-16 ON TRUSTING GOD "A good man obtaineth favour of the LORD..." -- Proverbs 12:2 Now consider the case of Job. After commissioning Satan to ruin Job financially and to slaughter his shepherds and children to win a petty bet with Satan. God asked Satan: "Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause." -- Job 2:3 ON THE HOLY LIFE-STYLE "Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart..." -- Ecclesiastes 9:7 "...they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not..." -- 1 Corinthians 7:30 ON PUNISHING CRIME "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- Ezekiel 18:20 "I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..." -- Exodus 20:5 ON TEMPTATION "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." -- James 1:13 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham..." -- Genesis 22:1 ON FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS "Honor thy father and thy mother..."-- Exodus 20:12 "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. " -- Luke 14:26 ON RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD "...he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. " -- Job 7:9 "...the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth...." -- John 5:28-29 |
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