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Camaban · 11-24-2002, 01:21 AM

Curiosity.

Paste the weakest, most easily-refuted-with-5-seconds-thought arguments you've ever come across.

I'm writing this because of this one <a href="http://forum.jcsm.org/jcsmforum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=712" target="_blank">here</a>

Quote:

According to the laws of physics, we know that heat flows from warm bodies to cool bodies until there is a state of balance. If the universe has always been here, then we should see an even dispersal of this heat. But we don't. Why?

From Jason G at JCSM forums.

My jaw actually started to drop on that one...

Xeluan · 11-24-2002, 01:29 AM

Does anything by Superbrains (Chris Langan) count?

Xeluan

parkdalian · 11-24-2002, 01:54 AM

A friend once argued that if there is a what, where, when, how and why in questions about the universe, there must be a who as well. I explained to him that the word "who" is merely an anthropomorphic form of "what". The rest of the discussion sounded much like the Abbott & Costello routine.

Camaban · 11-24-2002, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xeluan:
Does anything by Superbrains (Chris Langan) count?

Xeluan

If it makes you ashamed to be of the same species as the quotee, it counts.

(Haven't read much of his stuff... ARN's moderation style is extremely offputting)

Who's Albert Costello?

[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Camaban ]

Duvenoy · 11-24-2002, 03:09 AM

Ouch! Jason's face must still be red after that one. Mine would be.

Once, just after doing a wildlife presentation at an elementary school, I and the students were informed by a teacher that God, in his wisdom, gifted venomous animals with a means of capturing prey and defending themselves, with feeding the top priority. "But no animal uses it's 'poison' for a single purpose," she continued.

After packing the snakes in their travel cases, I slipped over to her and softly murmmered, "Honey bee."

doov

[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Duvenoy ]

Camaban · 11-24-2002, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Ouch! Jason's face must still be red after that one. Mine would be.

no.

Embarrassment is <a href="http://forum.jcsm.org/jcsmforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=670" target="_blank">here</a>

Shame is all relative.

tgamble · 11-24-2002, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Camaban:
Curiosity.

Paste the weakest, most easily-refuted-with-5-seconds-thought arguments you've ever come across.

pretty much anything from Kent Hovind or Jack Chick.

Frivolous · 11-24-2002, 05:07 AM

Prove that the Bible is accurate..

GALI · 11-24-2002, 06:43 AM

Sometimes they will do it for you. A Theist informed me that it was scientific fact that the grand canyon was only a few hundred years old and that geological layering had been shown to only take a few decades (something about comparing how oil and water separate into layers and that the same principle applies to rocks and dirt of different types, it just takes a few decades to separate out). Later on I was pointing out the problems with the story of Noah�s Ark and my theist friend quickly pointed out the flood was a fact because geologists had proven a flood happened right when the bibles said it did based on the layer of flood silt in the geological record......

scigirl · 11-24-2002, 06:45 AM

I like the argument, "how can we come from a single cell (humans from bacteria)? It's just impossible."

I guess a zygote isn't considered a cell.

scigirl

11-24-2002, 03:09 AM	#5
Duvenoy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Just another hick from the sticks. Posts: 1,108	Ouch! Jason's face must still be red after that one. Mine would be. Once, just after doing a wildlife presentation at an elementary school, I and the students were informed by a teacher that God, in his wisdom, gifted venomous animals with a means of capturing prey and defending themselves, with feeding the top priority. "But no animal uses it's 'poison' for a single purpose," she continued. After packing the snakes in their travel cases, I slipped over to her and softly murmmered, "Honey bee." doov [ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Duvenoy ]</p>

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11-24-2002, 01:29 AM	#2
Xeluan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some Pub In East Gosford, Australia Posts: 831	Does anything by Superbrains (Chris Langan) count? Xeluan

11-24-2002, 01:54 AM	#3
parkdalian Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nouveau-Brunswick Posts: 507	A friend once argued that if there is a what, where, when, how and why in questions about the universe, there must be a who as well. I explained to him that the word "who" is merely an anthropomorphic form of "what". The rest of the discussion sounded much like the Abbott & Costello routine.

11-24-2002, 05:07 AM	#8
Frivolous Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 101	Prove that the Bible is accurate..

11-24-2002, 06:43 AM	#9
GALI Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 22	Sometimes they will do it for you. A Theist informed me that it was scientific fact that the grand canyon was only a few hundred years old and that geological layering had been shown to only take a few decades (something about comparing how oil and water separate into layers and that the same principle applies to rocks and dirt of different types, it just takes a few decades to separate out). Later on I was pointing out the problems with the story of Noah�s Ark and my theist friend quickly pointed out the flood was a fact because geologists had proven a flood happened right when the bibles said it did based on the layer of flood silt in the geological record......

11-24-2002, 06:45 AM	#10
scigirl Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,261	I like the argument, "how can we come from a single cell (humans from bacteria)? It's just impossible." I guess a zygote isn't considered a cell. scigirl

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