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malookiemaloo · 02-24-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Actually i don't think any Biblical prophecy was given an extact date. "The messiah will be born of a virgin in a manger in Bethlehem" - am i missing the a time stated there? Prophecies are foreshadowings of the future that will come eventually - not on a specific date at a specific time.

Here is some info on current events and Iraq related to prophecy and the end times.

http://www.biblestudyplanet.com/s131.htm

Not quite true.

If you take the timescale in Daniel chapter nine, Jesus was crucified on 6 April 32AD. (Hope that was a Friday-never checked!!).

malookiemaloo

Godless Dave · 02-24-2003, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
How do you know it won't happen? Have you traveled to the future and see it not happen? You say you know it won't happen, i know it will happen. Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

Magus55,

How do you know the Ragnarok (end of the world) as described in The Elder Edda (a book of Nordic sagas) will not happen? Have you traveled to the future and seen it not happen? Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

How do you know the end of the world as described in the Bhagavdad Ghita (Hindu scripture) will not happen? Have you traveled to the future and seen it not happen? Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

How do you know the end of the world as described in Islamic scripture will not happen? Have you traveled to the future and seen it not happen? Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

How do you know the end of the world as described in Zoroastrian scripture will not happen? Have you traveled to the future and seen it not happen? Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

How do you know the end of the world as described in Jewish scripture will not happen? Their messianic prophecies are very different than the Christian New Testament prophecies. Have you traveled to the future and seen it not happen? Takes just as much faith and belief in it not happening as it does in it happening.

See my point? This isn't an either/or choice. You're making a choice among hundreds of end-times prophecies in hundreds of religions. You've decided just one of those is true. I've decided each one is as likely to come true as any of the others. Now, whose decision requires more faith?

Boro Nut · 02-24-2003, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
He doesn't send you to Hell because you chose the wrong religion - you go there because you are covered in sin,

Which textbook are you reading? It says skin in mine.

Boro Nut · 02-24-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Stephen T-B
And that�s odd; you�d have thought that if ever god had wanted to do his chosen people a favour, he�d at least have given them an oil-rich land.

Well, as an Irish Catholic and thereby representative of god's all time number one top favourite chosen people I don't know what you are going on about. God DID do us a favour - he let us choose our promised land first. We could have had all the oil if we had wanted to. We just liked the sound of potatoes that's all.

Boro Nut

MrDarwin · 02-24-2003, 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Magus55
Sometime in the future ( predicted near future - within 10 years) there will be the Rapture.

Has anybody gotten Magus55 to answer this yet? Where did he come up with this number of 10 years? Who made this prediction?

Boro Nut · 02-24-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by MrDarwin
Has anybody gotten Magus55 to answer this yet? Where did he come up with this number of 10 years? Who made this prediction?

I think it was that Jovie's Witness feller in the 1890's wasn't it?

OBKB · 02-24-2003, 11:51 AM

Morality is the melody of the perfection of conduct.

Aren't you judged moment by moment by yourself? If not then why are you giving that responsibility to someone else?

An atheist on Judgment Day
http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/athe...dgmentday.html

Bree · 02-24-2003, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by MrDarwin
Has anybody gotten Magus55 to answer this yet? Where did he come up with this number of 10 years? Who made this prediction?

I was under the impression that the Bible says no man (or woman, presumably) will know when Christ is going to return to Earth. I take that statement to mean that any prediction as to a time is automatically false.

MrDarwin · 02-24-2003, 12:08 PM

Magus himself said much the same thing later in the discussion, so I'm wondering why he made the earlier statement. Magus? Any help here?

02-24-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bree
I was under the impression that the Bible says no man (or woman, presumably) will know when Christ is going to return to Earth. I take that statement to mean that any prediction as to a time is automatically false.

Worse yet, "it is an evil age that looks for a sign of the times.":banghead:

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