Enlighten Me

Huh?

Amos

Sorry Enlightened Lady, in my view "subtle Christain imagery" is about equal to "subtle satanic imagery." I have an abundance of posts around that would attest to that in different ways.

wade-w

Don't mind Amos, Enlightened Lady. He rarely makes any sense.

Puck

It doesn't matter how or on what platform a President is voted in on, once in Office, a President represents all Americans. S/he is the official representive of America to the rest of the world. I don't give a rats ass what Bush's personal beliefs are, what I care about is how he represents us, which includes me. When he goes to his private quarters, he can wallow in prayer all he wants, but when he is speaking offically, it is his duty to speak for all America, not just his personal tenents.

If Clinton would have gotten his blow jobs in private quarters, it would have been no ones business but the people involved. But when he did it in our Oval Office, he disrespected us.

One's personal faith, or lack thereof, must be left out of official actions if one wishes to respect all Americans. Unfortunatly, our current President has no respect for far too many of his fellow Americans. I consider his actions a personal slap in the face and ultimatly dangerous for the whole Country.

Dibble Helix

Really? I've thought for many years that oral sex ought to play a greater part in politics - but that's just a personal opinion.

bltl6

There are some good points brought up. I should say that I don't believe that Bush is a "god send" so to speak. He's not a perfect man and I don't agree with everything he does. But being a Christian, I'm glad that he believes (or at least claims to) in the same God I so. But if he were a bad President (which is for another thread) I wouldn't want him in office just because he's a Christian--I want him to be a good leader too. But all I'm saying is that I wasn't offened by what he said. Some were, I know, but it would be impossible to not offend everyone, and being that millions of Americans believe in a god, and even the God of the Bible, he did speak for many of us, and said things that we liked. I don't think he broke any laws in what he said about God, if he did, show me. But I did like what (I forgot who wrote it) said about Bush should've said "I" believe instead of "we". That's rests well with me.

Puck

Okay bltl6, how about if the shoe were on the other foot and Our President had said something in reference to America being a nation of Atheist beliefs? Would that make you feel like s/he had no respect for you as a member of America?

As for it being impossible to not offend anyone, posh. No mention of anything that smacks of religion would offend no one, unless of course one wished to impose their religion onto the Nation. I suppose one could take offense if you had pumped money into the Presidents campagin and in return you expected s/he to inject your brand of religion into the National psyche...

Sabine Grant

I am a theist and I agree with you Puck. The representation must remain neutral.

I do not vote in America but had I voted if I were an American, I would not be too thrilled about GWB posing as a" christian" anyway.

beyelzu

I would just like to point out that both parties do it. The canidates go to church with news cameras around, they use the word god repeatedly during their national conventions. Now Bush is doing it more, and I think the frightening part is that he really isnt posing.

Radorth

I think Bush deliberately chose Washington's generic word. Nevertheless, I don't think the two G.W. s would have got on that well, especially on the subject of attacking Iraq premptively. I personally liked the speech but had a bit of a hangover the next day.

Rad