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Old 12-31-2002, 11:59 AM   #71
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"So you see I never really pidgeonholed Christians because Rad is definitely a Christian."

I get it now.

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If you have any doubts concerning just how successful his propaganda became, even after he was exposed and admitted fabricating certain things,
Really? Exactly what quotes did he admit to "fabricating"? Please at least supply a URL when making such statements, as you would surely demand.

I nominate Buffman for today's "Greatest number of Gratuitous Assertions in One Post" award, but let's start with that one.

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Unless I missed something, it now appears the only quote in the last three months, with no source at all, came from an atheist. (RE: Washington) Fortunately Buffman caught it before the lie was spread too far. Daggah is at lunch apparently, as his silence on that little problem is, what shall we say, deafening?

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Yeah right, Buffman.

"Gratuitous Assertion of the Month" for that one.

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"So you see I never really pidgeonholed Christians because Rad is definitely a Christian."

Rad: this is not a quote from anyone here. Nor is it an accurate summary of what anyone has said. Nor do you identify the person you claim has said it. Nor does it make any sense.

This is an abuse of the discussion here.
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Unless I missed something, it now appears the only quote in the last three months, with no source at all, came from an atheist.
STOPPPPPIIIIIIITT! You're killing me! OMG! I tell ya, you're killing me! I just wet my pants!

Will somebody please turn off the bubble machine?
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Oh that's right. I misquoted Franklin in a mock interview I made up, and which any nit would know I made up.

Well almost any nit.

(Which quote I apologized for anyway).

Still waiting on Toto to come clean on the ten atheist quotes he never sourced, (and which they removed from any context), and then his misrepresentation of what Steele said.

Which other quote did I use which has since been found to have no source at all? Kindly supply proof for those readers who insist on such from both sides, particularly those who are forever whining about it. Me, I tend to take them at face value unless they are very short, or have ellipses inserted. I'm following MY rules anyway.

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Old 12-31-2002, 01:03 PM   #78
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Really? Exactly what quotes did he admit to "fabricating"? Please at least supply a URL when making such statements, as you would surely demand.

How many times must I post these before you will read them?

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/boston1.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/boston2.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/bartchro.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/tnppage/misq1.htm

I nominate Buffman for today's "Greatest number of Gratuitous Assertions in One Post" award, but let's start with that one.

Another cheap shot when I am attempting to help you.
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I've read that stuff before. The first one is, of course, just atheists pontificating and does not even mention any quote.

The second one gives us one quote which Barton admitted was false. (I read that a long time ago) He never said he fabricated any of them. You specifically said that Barton fabricated them, but we don't know who fabricated them, do we? You have to prove such statements Buffman. Remember what the law says?

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Now the major purveyor of the quote, Texas-based Religious Right propagandist David Barton, has admitted it's bogus. Last year Barton's group, WallBuilders, issued a one-page document titled "Questionable Quotes," a list of 12 statements allegedly uttered by Founding Fathers and other prominent historical figures, that are now considered to be suspect or outright false. Madison's alleged comment about the Ten Commandments is number four on the list and is flatly declared by Barton to be "false."
So which quotes did Barton fabricate? My question is unanswered.

Your use of the word "fabricated" is entirely misleading, as it turns out, like almost everything else you have said about Barton.

Now if you want to talk about people using quotes for which scholars can find no source, well, that's a whole different ballgame isn't it? Now we can talk about atheist sources that make false statements about Washington, use "fabricated" quotes by your definition, and one of which uses Franklin's "primitive Christianity" quote (quite recently). That site apparently hasn't read Barton's list, since it is one Barton labeled "questionable" and they still use it.

Perhaps Barton has stopped using it. Now wouldn't hat be ironic? Or is that quote actually true, since atheists use it?

Hopefully some readers will find these little "details" interesting, as I doubt they ever hear them from Buffman.

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Rad: this is not a quote from anyone here. Nor is it an accurate summary of what anyone has said. Nor do you identify the person you claim has said it. Nor does it make any sense.

This is an abuse of the discussion here.
Well in Yb Normal's case one has to take many guesses. Perhaps he'd like to tell us what he did mean in his post just above mine.

I was trying to point out that Christias are far from alike, and he gives us more gibberish about me pretending not to be a Christian, or some other nonsense I could not decipher.

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