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Old 03-13-2002, 07:37 PM   #271
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Yes, please do. This sort of thing is unpleasant.

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Old 03-13-2002, 07:43 PM   #272
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Unbelievable. Argumentum ad infantum.
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Old 03-13-2002, 07:50 PM   #273
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jesus.tap-dancing.christ@earthlink.net! this topic is waaaay too long!
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:27 PM   #274
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spin,

PB, sorry, I find your consistent use of this "contract theory" stuff as arbitrary manipulation for obvious ends. You want to eat meat so you stack your theory to suit it. I see nothing moral in that.

I'm genuinely puzzled that you seem to think that I've personally stacked a widely accepted several-hundred-year-old moral theory in order to justify my own desire to eat meat. I can assure that, as Bill Snedden was kind enough to point out to you graciously (thanks, Bill), I am not misrepresenting or "stacking" contract theory. I don't expect you to agree with the theory, but, if you wish to participate ina civil discussion with me, I do expect you to refrain from accusing me of dishonesty when I discuss issues abotu which you are uninformed. Either learn what <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/contractarianism/" target="_blank">contractarianism</a> is, and respond to my points in an informed manner, or concede that you do not know what you are talking about and stop accusing me of dishonesty.

I suggest that, if you are truly interested in making a honest, rational presentation of your objection to meat eating you do as both Bill and I have asked and outline your own moral theory for us.

And Dahmer says your contract theory is arbitrary.

You speak for Dahmer as well as cows now?

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Old 03-13-2002, 08:35 PM   #275
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Originally posted by SirenSpeak:
<strong>this topic is waaaay too long!</strong>

Yes, but it has convinced me to make <strong>chicken</strong> Waldorf salad and <strong>ham</strong> sandwiches for my party on Saturday.

No cows, so we should be all right.
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:40 PM   #276
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In the first vegetarian thread I saw on these boards I posted "Where's the beef?" I'm not going to do that this time..
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:46 PM   #277
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Don't have a cow, man. We're just porking fun here.
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Old 03-13-2002, 08:50 PM   #278
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QoS, Kally,

Now, see, I have a bone to pick with you. You'd both better beef up your arguments. There isn't much meat to the body of them. But, if we can solve this problem, we'll be on the gravy trane for ever. Lard knows that this has turned into just a plain old roast.

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Old 03-13-2002, 08:52 PM   #279
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Quote:
Originally posted by QueenofSwords:
<strong>Originally posted by SirenSpeak:
[qb]this topic is waaaay too long!</strong>

Yes, but it has convinced me to make <strong>chicken</strong> Waldorf salad and <strong>ham</strong> sandwiches for my party on Saturday.

No cows, so we should be all right.[/QB]
Ham sandwiches...HAM SANDWICHES...HAM????!

hasn't all this comical banter converted you?
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(this hurts me more than it hurts you)

But maybe this just comes down to a chicken and the egg issue.

(groan, but I *had* to)

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