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sakrilege · 07-27-2003, 07:13 AM

According to this site, Internet Question Box (run by a catholic), self baptism is invalid.

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However, for those in situations where no one is available who is willing to baptize a person, God will not hold this against him, but will count his desire for baptism in place of the baptism itself and give him the grace anyway. This is because God loves us and wants us to have his grace, even when the normal method of communicating it is unavailable.

Picky, picky, so why not allow self baptism?

Jinto · 07-27-2003, 12:37 PM

They're probably afraid that people will drown themselves if not properly supervised.

AJ113 · 07-27-2003, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by sakrilege
According to this site, Internet Question Box (run by a catholic), self baptism is invalid. Picky, picky, so why not allow self baptism?

It's typical RC. Forget scripture, we're gonna make up our own rules and regs.

mark9950 · 07-27-2003, 10:58 PM

everyday when I take a shower valid or not valid I took enough showers to make up for it about 9000 or more showers and counting in my lifetime.

PopeInTheWoods · 07-29-2003, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by sakrilege
Picky, picky, so why not allow self baptism?

Because the Church wouldn't get paid!

sakrilege · 07-29-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by PopeInTheWoods
Because the Church wouldn't get paid!

And you, as pope, would know.

mb · 07-30-2003, 12:20 PM

A couple of notes about baptism:

1) Self-baptism into Christ is invalid because the act involves among other things confessing (acknowledging) before others belief that Jesus is the Son of God.

2) A shower is not even "baptism" according to the meaning of the Greek word, which is "to immerse", "to bury", "to submerge".

Tom Sawyer · 07-30-2003, 01:30 PM

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1) Self-baptism into Christ is invalid because the act involves among other things confessing (acknowledging) before others belief that Jesus is the Son of God.

Isn't God watching and isn't acknowledging it to Him the important thing? I've always heard that Christianity was about someone's personal relationship with God, not about trying to look holy infront of your friends.

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2) A shower is not even "baptism" according to the meaning of the Greek word, which is "to immerse", "to bury", "to submerge".

What about a bath then?

sakrilege · 07-30-2003, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by mb
Self-baptism into Christ is invalid because the act involves among other things confessing (acknowledging) before others belief that Jesus is the Son of God.

Says who?

sophie · 07-30-2003, 03:52 PM

sakrilege :

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Says who?

It happened to me, I preacher from a clap-hand church in a small border town in Ontario tried that on me, asked me if I accept Jesus Christ as the son of God.

I mumblled, thrice. yeh.

What was I doing there?

07-27-2003, 10:58 PM	#4
mark9950 Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest usa Posts: 1,203	I baptize myself everyday when I take a shower valid or not valid I took enough showers to make up for it about 9000 or more showers and counting in my lifetime.

07-30-2003, 12:20 PM	#7
mb Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 13	Baptism A couple of notes about baptism: 1) Self-baptism into Christ is invalid because the act involves among other things confessing (acknowledging) before others belief that Jesus is the Son of God. 2) A shower is not even "baptism" according to the meaning of the Greek word, which is "to immerse", "to bury", "to submerge".

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Jinto Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 957	They're probably afraid that people will drown themselves if not properly supervised.

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