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Valmorian · 01-07-2003, 10:04 AM

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Well lets just say that they do not have a need for re-creation because they are never out of touch with creation. The fact that we do have a need for recreation already speaks volumes for their peace and tranquility.

*chuckle* That's a rather inventive use of equivocation. I'm not sure what this is supposed to say about my statement, however. How is this supposed to be virtuous and admirable?

Gemma Therese · 01-07-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Valmorian
Conversely, neither does your acceptance of it make it worthwhile. I'm sure the contemplative life is quite "worth it" to those involved.

Why should this suggest that one should be impressed with those who cloister themselves away? What exactly is there to be proud of? How is this virtuous in any way other than the most selfish?

I don't think the austerities of the contemplative life can be considered "selfish"

Gemma Therese

Yellum Notnef · 01-07-2003, 10:40 AM

I appreciate those religious people who lock themselves away in a cloistered,contemplative lifestyle and wish more religious fanatics would follow their lead.

These people may not be physically helping anyone or doing anything tangible or particularly admirable,but what they ARE doing is LEAVING US ALL ALONE. None of these people are online hassling us with nonsense every day about how wonderful the horrible Catholic church is.

I`m wondering when Gemma Therese will be selling her computer and moving into the monastery with nothing but her bible and a few tattered rags.

Gemma Therese · 01-07-2003, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by Fenton Mulley
I appreciate those religious people who lock themselves away in a cloistered,contemplative lifestyle and wish more religious fanatics would follow their lead.

I`m wondering when Gemma Therese will be selling her computer and moving into the monastery with nothing but her bible and a few tattered rags.

Why? Who else would you respond to on this message board?

Gemma Therese

HelenM · 01-07-2003, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese
I don't think the austerities of the contemplative life can be considered "selfish"

Gemma Therese

Well, it depends. If you're the sort of person who would make a negative contribution to society then I'd say it's a kindness if you withdraw yourself from society.

If you're the sort who would make a positive contribution but you choose instead to withdraw yourself, then I'd see that as selfish, unless the effect of the extra prayers you pray while contemplating (and/or the writings you write that are later shared with society) outweighs what society lost by having you as part of it.

take care
Helen

Valmorian · 01-07-2003, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese
I don't think the austerities of the contemplative life can be considered "selfish"

Gemma Therese

Who else are they for, if not for themselves? Selfish doesn't equal bad. Being a hermit and living your live cloistered from civilization benefits nobody but (perhaps) yourself.

What is that if not selfish?

Gemma Therese · 01-07-2003, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Valmorian
Who else are they for, if not for themselves?

What is that if not selfish?

It's for GOD.

Gemma Therese

openeyes · 01-07-2003, 12:08 PM

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I appreciate those religious people who lock themselves away in a cloistered,contemplative lifestyle and wish more religious fanatics would follow their lead.

01-07-2003, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese
Why? Who else would you respond to on this message board?

Gemma Therese

Good point girl, you are a real charmer and we all love to see you here.

Yellum Notnef · 01-07-2003, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Amos
Good point girl, you are a real charmer and we all love to see you here.

That certainly is debatable.
And how often do I entertain Gemmas need for attention? I hardly ever take part in the mind numbing threads she`s involved with.

Maybe there are others here who need a daily Gemma fix,but I`m just fine without it.
I`m not saying I don`t like Gemma,I just really couldn`t care less.

01-07-2003, 10:40 AM	#123
Yellum Notnef Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 4,676	Theres a good side to this I appreciate those religious people who lock themselves away in a cloistered,contemplative lifestyle and wish more religious fanatics would follow their lead. These people may not be physically helping anyone or doing anything tangible or particularly admirable,but what they ARE doing is LEAVING US ALL ALONE. None of these people are online hassling us with nonsense every day about how wonderful the horrible Catholic church is. I`m wondering when Gemma Therese will be selling her computer and moving into the monastery with nothing but her bible and a few tattered rags.

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