Darth Dane

Sri Aurobindu, amongst others, came out one day from meditation and said:

Nirvana is samasara, samsara is nirvana

Samsara = maya(illusion)
Nirvana = Reality, Heaven


So what do we get when someone as enlightened(as the word goes, I haven't met him in life) as Aurobindu, who says it is the very same thing?


I understand at least one thing: We are eternal, even though we leave our physical body. In our dreams we can leave our physical body, I have become concious in my dreams and started flying because I knew it was a dream. I wasn't connected to my physical body in the same sense.


Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to
Strawberry fields
Nothing is real, nothing to get hung about
strawberry fields forever


God loves each of us, as if there was only one of us - St Augustine








DD - Love & Laughter

emotional

I believe the universe is a construction but not an illusion. It is the construction of God, the creation of God, but not a projection like a film on a screen. The universe, once made, is stable and solid. The only illusion is that God and the afterlife do not exist, caused by their being hidden.

I also reject pantheism. God is other than His creation; awfully transcendent as well as immanent. I believe there is a God, and I believe I am not Him. There is no "god within", there is only God without.

Darth Dane

So emotional you reject this quote I take it?:

The kingdom of God is inside you(humankind) - Luke 17:20

You are muslim afaik, right emotional?





DD - Love & Laughter

emotional

I reject all the Bible.

BTW, it means (entos hymon) "in your midst", not "inside you".

What?! How did you come to that conclusion? I reject all the Qur'an also! Christianity and Islam are satanic religions. They have the majority of humankind ending up in an eternal torture chamber.

I'm a Deist, a spiritualist and a humanist. I believe in a Creator-God, in the afterlife and in humanism as the ideal moral code.

Milton

I guess it all depends on how you view God. I believe that God is alone, and that besides Him there is none. (As stated in Isaiah) I believe that God knows the future, before it becomes. And since God does not exist in time, then everything He thinks, is created simultaneously. Time is part of the creation, so it does not affect God. We only exist as part of God, not as separate from God.

I don't believe pantheism either. I think we are within God and God within us. That is what Jesus said "I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me", while in another occastion He said "I and the Father are one."

Again, this boils down to your view of God.

Darth Dane

I reject all the Bible.

Really? All of it?

BTW, it means (entos hymon) "in your midst", not "inside you".

so this would be a more accurate translation:

(113) His disciples said to him: On what day will the kingdom come? <Jesus said:> It will not come while people watch for it; they will not say: Look, here it is, or: Look, there it is; but the kingdom of the father is spread out over the earth, and men do not see it.


It corresponds to your own idea of looking outward, well everything you look at is the Kingdom of God.


What?! How did you come to that conclusion? I reject all the Qur'an also! Christianity and Islam are satanic religions. They have the majority of humankind ending up in an eternal torture chamber.

I dunno how I got there, sorry for the mix-up must have confused you with someone else.


I'm a Deist, a spiritualist and a humanist. I believe in a Creator-God, in the afterlife and in humanism as the ideal moral code.

This God you believe in, does God have any commands?

Is there anything we must do, or how is it?







DD - Love & Laughter

emotional

I believe it is impossible, except for a gifted few who have visions (see Isaiah 6 for a good example), to see God while clothed in the material body. I regard the experience of God as a promise waiting to be kept after death.



There is nothing you can do to serve God directly; since He lacks nothing, no words of praise or rituals or faith can please Him. Therefore the only commandment - for your sake and not for God, Who lacks nothing - is the observance of a life of loving and kindness, the humanistic life. That is the whole law.

Milton

Umm...are you talking about the smae Isaiah that the Bible mentions? or is this some Isaiah you made up in your head? Cause, if I am not wrong, you said you reject the whole Bible.

And who communicated this to you?

emotional

I reject the Bible as a guide for science, morality and theology. That doesn't mean I can't learn something from the stories there. I think the Biblical account of creation is false, but I don't think Isaiah didn't have a vision.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned Isaiah 6 as an example. I should have said: some people have visions of God. And left it at that. Or used another, non-Biblical example, such as Teresa of Avilla or Swami Vivekananda, who both had visions.

No one. I just believe it is true.

Darth Dane

If you don't mind me asking these questions(we can go pm if wanted)

What happens in teh afterlife, do we all meet up somewhere or how does that aspect go?


All are saved?





DD - Love & Laughter