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fokket · 07-21-2003, 06:34 AM

http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html

Darth Dane · 07-21-2003, 06:45 AM

And to think Buddha amongst MANY MANY people, found this out 2500+ years ago!!!

He seemingly discovered this by meditating, oh and the answer to anything must by default already be within our grasp.

Mobile perpetuum? It is in your Mind how to do it.

Fly with your Mind? Already in your mind.

Birds can fly? I can fly...

We don't have to search the outer world, the inner is sufficient, and it seems easier

DD - Love & Laughter

Jobar · 07-21-2003, 07:16 AM

Fascinating.

The cover story of the August 2003 Scientific American is "Are You A Hologram?" I have yet to read it, but I feel sure it's this same story.

Though I can't recall the exact sutra, one of the Hindu holy books describes reality as a vast diamond with infinitely many facets; each facet is one particle, or entity, and each single facet reflects the whole diamond in miniature.

fokket · 07-22-2003, 02:58 AM

yeah, I found this article very interesting because it matches
Buddhism EXACTLY

riverduck2003 · 07-22-2003, 05:05 AM

I don't know if Neale Donald Walsch have read about this before, but his books, Conversations with God, fit this hologram theory perfectly.

It seems that no matter whether viewed from a theistic or atheistic eyes - the macro/micro - scopic view of the physical reality/illusion is always awesome to say the least.

BigBadShrubbery · 07-22-2003, 10:44 AM

"You think that's air you're breathing?"

emotional · 07-22-2003, 11:03 AM

What's this nonsense?! The universe is real, and everything in it! If I pinch myself, the pain will be real enough. This view of maya is nothing but New Age balderdash!

Look outwardly, not inwardly.

EvilPoet · 07-22-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by riverduck2003
I don't know if Neale Donald Walsch have read about this before, but his books, Conversations with God, fit this hologram theory perfectly.

It also sounds a lot like a book written by Michael Talbot entitled The Holographic Universe.

Jobar · 07-22-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by emotional
What's this nonsense?! The universe is real, and everything in it! If I pinch myself, the pain will be real enough. This view of maya is nothing but New Age balderdash!

Look outwardly, not inwardly.

Emotional, at the beginning of the last century there were plenty of scientists who proclaimed the equivalency of matter and energy, and the unavoidable uncertainties of quantum mechanics, nonsense and balderdash.

Wasn't it J.B.S. Haldane who made the remark about the universe not only being stranger than we imagine, but perhaps stranger than we can imagine?

These are hard scientific and mathematical theories. I'm trying to comprehend that article I mentioned above- it's mind-bending stuff.

emotional · 07-22-2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Jobar
Emotional, at the beginning of the last century there were plenty of scientists who proclaimed the equivalency of matter and energy, and the unavoidable uncertainties of quantum mechanics, nonsense and balderdash.

Wasn't it J.B.S. Haldane who made the remark about the universe not only being stranger than we imagine, but perhaps stranger than we can imagine?

These are hard scientific and mathematical theories. I'm trying to comprehend that article I mentioned above- it's mind-bending stuff.

You know, that's exactly what I just HATE about science: its removal of any certainty in the world. Every time something new, shifting sand, never a stable thing. Nothing sacred at all.

I have no patience for those newfangled theories. Spherical earth, heliocentrism and evolution are bad enough, and I accept them, but quantum mechanics is simply overdoing it. As far as I'm concerned it's all New Age nonsense and is practically non-existent for me. And don't even get me started with neuroscience. I expect scientists to improve life, not to tell me about the universe.

I hate science, plain and simple. I prefer faith to science.

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Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	And to think Buddha amongst MANY MANY people, found this out 2500+ years ago!!! He seemingly discovered this by meditating, oh and the answer to anything must by default already be within our grasp. Mobile perpetuum? It is in your Mind how to do it. Fly with your Mind? Already in your mind. Birds can fly? I can fly... We don't have to search the outer world, the inner is sufficient, and it seems easier DD - Love & Laughter

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Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Fascinating. The cover story of the August 2003 Scientific American is "Are You A Hologram?" I have yet to read it, but I feel sure it's this same story. Though I can't recall the exact sutra, one of the Hindu holy books describes reality as a vast diamond with infinitely many facets; each facet is one particle, or entity, and each single facet reflects the whole diamond in miniature.

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riverduck2003 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 25	I don't know if Neale Donald Walsch have read about this before, but his books, Conversations with God, fit this hologram theory perfectly. It seems that no matter whether viewed from a theistic or atheistic eyes - the macro/micro - scopic view of the physical reality/illusion is always awesome to say the least.

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BigBadShrubbery Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Finland Posts: 129	"You think that's air you're breathing?"

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emotional Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Boxing ring of HaShem, Jesus and Allah Posts: 1,945	What's this nonsense?! The universe is real, and everything in it! If I pinch myself, the pain will be real enough. This view of maya is nothing but New Age balderdash! Look outwardly, not inwardly.

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