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Nic Tamzek · 09-12-2002, 06:33 PM

Check this out:

(all free online)

<a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-toc&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08" target="_blank">http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-toc&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08</a>

<a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08&page=1718" target="_blank">INTELLIGENT DESIGN CREATIONISM: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS? THINK AGAIN.</a> Barry A. Palevitz, pages 1718–1720.

<a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08&page=1721" target="_blank">PROBABILITY, OPTIMIZATION THEORY, AND EVOLUTION</a>. Jason Rosenhouse, pages 1721–1722.

Or, if that doesn't get you excited:

EVOLUTION OF EJACULATES: PATTERNS OF PHENOTYPIC AND GENOTYPIC VARIATION AND CONDITION DEPENDENCE IN SPERM COMPETITION TRAITS. Leigh W. Simmons and Janne S. Kotiaho, pages 1622–1631.

...which is a topic I would love to see an IDist interpretation of.

Kevin Dorner · 09-12-2002, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic Tamzek:
<strong>...which is a topic I would love to see an IDist interpretation of.</strong>

Waddidit.

Albion · 09-12-2002, 08:19 PM

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But make no mistake about it�and reading this book will emphasize the point�ID is much more about a social and religious worldview than biology. Proponents may not readily admit it, except in front of friendly audiences, but there's more than enough evidence, in their own words, to justify a sign over the CRSC door saying, �it's the religion, stupid.� FAQs on the CRSC website rail against the evils of evolution, naturalism, and materialism. Poor Charles Darwin is responsible for more mayhem than Osama bin Laden.

Sigh...

At least the AGU is taking this seriously. At last year's meeting they had both Kenneth Miller and Robert Pennock there giving talks in an entire session devoted to threats by creationism to science. Wish some of the life science organisations would do likewise.

Bubba · 09-13-2002, 04:09 PM

Thanks for the links, Nik.

Chris

Valentine Pontifex · 09-13-2002, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nic Tamzek:
<strong>Check this out:

(all free online)

[snip the two articles on evolution denial]

Or, if that doesn't get you excited:

EVOLUTION OF EJACULATES: PATTERNS OF PHENOTYPIC AND GENOTYPIC VARIATION AND CONDITION DEPENDENCE IN SPERM COMPETITION TRAITS. Leigh W. Simmons and Janne S. Kotiaho, pages 1622–1631.

...which is a topic I would love to see an IDist interpretation of.</strong>

This also has free full text which surprised me.

<a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08&page=1622" target="_blank">Here it is.</a>

Lizard · 09-15-2002, 03:13 PM

Did you folks see this just out of Overland Park, Kansas?

Group Challenges Theory of Gravity

<a href="http://thamus.org/News/science/IG_theory.html" target="_blank">http://thamus.org/News/science/IG_theory.html</a>

scigirl · 09-15-2002, 03:33 PM

Lizard - don't scare me like that!

scigirl

Richiyaado · 09-15-2002, 03:38 PM

It's not angels pushing things around, it's the Invisible Tinkering Warrior Army, dammit!

And those stickers better say so.

09-12-2002, 06:33 PM	#1
Nic Tamzek Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: California Posts: 646	Dembski, ID critiqued in the journal Evolution Check this out: (all free online) <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-toc&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08" target="_blank">http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-toc&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08</a> <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08&page=1718" target="_blank">INTELLIGENT DESIGN CREATIONISM: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS? THINK AGAIN.</a> Barry A. Palevitz, pages 1718–1720. <a href="http://evol.allenpress.com/evolonline/?request=get-document&issn=0014-3820&volume=056&issue=08&page=1721" target="_blank">PROBABILITY, OPTIMIZATION THEORY, AND EVOLUTION</a>. Jason Rosenhouse, pages 1721–1722. Or, if that doesn't get you excited: EVOLUTION OF EJACULATES: PATTERNS OF PHENOTYPIC AND GENOTYPIC VARIATION AND CONDITION DEPENDENCE IN SPERM COMPETITION TRAITS. Leigh W. Simmons and Janne S. Kotiaho, pages 1622–1631. ...which is a topic I would love to see an IDist interpretation of.

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09-13-2002, 04:09 PM	#4
Bubba Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orient, OH USA Posts: 1,501	Thanks for the links, Nik. Chris

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Lizard Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 169	Did you folks see this just out of Overland Park, Kansas? Group Challenges Theory of Gravity <a href="http://thamus.org/News/science/IG_theory.html" target="_blank">http://thamus.org/News/science/IG_theory.html</a>

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scigirl Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 4,261	Lizard - don't scare me like that! scigirl

09-15-2002, 03:38 PM	#8
Richiyaado Regular Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: New Orleans Posts: 172	It's not angels pushing things around, it's the Invisible Tinkering Warrior Army, dammit! And those stickers better say so.

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