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03-13-2002, 06:54 AM

EXCERPT:

AMERICAN scientists are outraged over plans for a multi-million-dollar museum dedicated to telling the nation's schoolchildren that God made the world in seven days and that Darwin is a fraud.

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Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate, and life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence.

<a href="http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/10/wmus10.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/10/ixworld.html" target="_blank">Full article</a>

DarkBronzePlant · 03-13-2002, 07:30 AM

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...Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate...

Anyone want to bring an atomic clock in there to demonstrate how "wildly inaccurate" such scientific methods are?

Writer@Large · 03-13-2002, 07:36 AM

Ever since THE DAILY SHOW, I can't read a thing about Hamm and his wacky museum without getting a certain theme song stuck in my head ...

Flintstones,
Meet the Flintstones!
They're a modern Stone Age fam-i-lyyyy!

From the,
Town of Bedrock!
They're a page right out of his-tor-yyyy!

--W@L

Kevin Dorner · 03-13-2002, 07:40 AM

This "museum" has cropped up in this forum before, but it's good that this is not being ignored in the rest of the world.

The museum's construction has been delayed recently because the county refused to approve the building: the sewage facilities were not sufficient so a small sewage treatment plant will have to be constructed there. The humourous implications of this given the function of the premises are so obvious that I will avoid them.

bluefugue · 03-13-2002, 08:10 AM

To all Brits on the board:

When America has descended into a new theocratic dark age, will you chaps still be carrying the torch of science and reason? And will you give me a visa? Pretty-pretty-please? With sugar on top?

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: IesusDomini ]

Oolon Colluphid · 03-13-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by IesusDomini:
To all Brits on the board:

When America has descended into a new theocratic dark age, will you chaps still be carrying the torch of science and reason? And will you give me a visa? Pretty-pretty-please? With sugar on top?

Of course, old chap. Mi pa�s es su pa�s, or something like that. Last bastion of rationalism, Britain. That's why Uri Geller made it home.

Oolon

Oolon Colluphid · 03-13-2002, 09:01 AM

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Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate

I’m quite sure the dates they’d get from carbon-dating a fossil would be wildly inaccurate, since most fossils they’re likely to be interested in would be rather more than 50,000 years old. Mind you, they’ll have to figure out how to carbon-date eg shale...

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and life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence.

Yep, and of course Deinonychus used its claws for tap-dancing. Look, here it is singing too:

TTFN, Oolon

03-13-2002, 09:19 AM

One good thing about this creation museum is its location in rural Kentucky. I doubt it will get many visitors.

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]

Corwin · 03-13-2002, 09:25 AM

Is this the one Kent Hovind is in legal trouble (AGAIN) over? Or is that a different one?

That whole 'expat worker spend some time in europe or australia' thing is looking better and better every day.... too bad their economies suck so bad. (Of course, keep the shrub in the white house for another couple of years and we might not be so much better off...)

Kevin Dorner · 03-13-2002, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by Corwin:
Is this the one Kent Hovind is in legal trouble (AGAIN) over? Or is that a different one?

That one is "Dinosaur Adventure Land" in Florida.

03-13-2002, 06:54 AM	#1
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	Giant creation "science" museum to open EXCERPT: AMERICAN scientists are outraged over plans for a multi-million-dollar museum dedicated to telling the nation's schoolchildren that God made the world in seven days and that Darwin is a fraud. <snip> Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate, and life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence. <a href="http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/10/wmus10.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/10/ixworld.html" target="_blank">Full article</a>

03-13-2002, 08:10 AM	#5
bluefugue Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,427	To all Brits on the board: When America has descended into a new theocratic dark age, will you chaps still be carrying the torch of science and reason? And will you give me a visa? Pretty-pretty-please? With sugar on top? [ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: IesusDomini ]</p>

03-13-2002, 09:19 AM	#8
atheist_in_foxhole Guest Posts: n/a	One good thing about this creation museum is its location in rural Kentucky. I doubt it will get many visitors. [ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: atheist_in_foxhole ]</p>

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03-13-2002, 07:36 AM	#3
Writer@Large Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 7,198	Ever since THE DAILY SHOW, I can't read a thing about Hamm and his wacky museum without getting a certain theme song stuck in my head ... Flintstones, Meet the Flintstones! They're a modern Stone Age fam-i-lyyyy! From the, Town of Bedrock! They're a page right out of his-tor-yyyy! --W@L

03-13-2002, 07:40 AM	#4
Kevin Dorner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 762	This "museum" has cropped up in this forum before, but it's good that this is not being ignored in the rest of the world. The museum's construction has been delayed recently because the county refused to approve the building: the sewage facilities were not sufficient so a small sewage treatment plant will have to be constructed there. The humourous implications of this given the function of the premises are so obvious that I will avoid them.

03-13-2002, 09:25 AM	#9
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Is this the one Kent Hovind is in legal trouble (AGAIN) over? Or is that a different one? That whole 'expat worker spend some time in europe or australia' thing is looking better and better every day.... too bad their economies suck so bad. (Of course, keep the shrub in the white house for another couple of years and we might not be so much better off...)

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