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case · 02-15-2002, 11:40 PM

Did this guy actually say that "...Christians are in no way associated with religion"?

What the hell?

Proxima Centauri · 02-16-2002, 05:57 AM

Christians don't always succeed in being moral. What's all this they keep repeating about how all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. At least when they have done something they feel ashamed of they can explain it with their bible.

Eudaimonist · 02-16-2002, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by case:
<strong>Did this guy actually say that "...Christians are in no way associated with religion"?

What the hell?</strong>

Some Christians associate the concept "religion" with rituals, and like to insist that Christians have a "relationship" with Jesus that goes deeper than that.

bluefugue · 02-16-2002, 06:53 AM

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Agnosticism, atheism, and any other beliefs you have aren't choices. What convinces you, convinces you. What doesn't, doesn't.

Precisely. This is why Pascal's Wager is so pointless: you cannot choose to believe in something. Not consciously, anyway.

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case Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 420	Did this guy actually say that "...Christians are in no way associated with religion"? What the hell?

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Proxima Centauri Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: England, the EU. Posts: 2,403	Christians don't always succeed in being moral. What's all this they keep repeating about how all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. At least when they have done something they feel ashamed of they can explain it with their bible.

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