Amos

Is it not like an opium for the people and a form of enslavement that can lead to the omniscient mind of God. Others may call this Heaven, Uthopia, Nirvana and each mythology will have its own description of it. From this follows that religion is not wrong in itself but a dead end religion is wrong if this desired end is not achieved.

Here is a line from Intimations of Immortality

"Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
which brought us hither,
can in a moment travel thiter,"

It is because our souls have sight of this immortal sea that opium and other tranquilizers become reactionary stress relievers for the ego identity in which we remain alienated from this celestial sea.

Amos

Edited to add that religion should never be a resort in drug rehab because religious enslavement often ends up in permanent mental disorders.

[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: Amos ]</p>

beachbum

Welsome Ghillie77

Good post. I have been where Tom was/is. GF left me flat so I did the only logical thing - drank - into oblivion - nightly.

The only way I could sleep at night was to drink 10 to 12 beers or 1/2 a bottle of booze then pur on my headphones with a tape of a thunderstorm(?) and pass out. While in the depths of one of these forlorn fits I called my best friend and he recognized that I was drunk and advised me to call AA. He knew them only by reputation. I did went to several meetings and constantly heard that you can not start to heal until [b]you are at the lowest point possible[/] This and all the bs about a higher power turned me to get sober by myself. I left AA after about 3 weeks and never looked back. It took me longer to get out of the church but also - I never looked back.

Why is it that you have to be at your lowest for gods to help? Because if you are still in control of your faculties you realize that religion is just a sham?

I guess I have more questions than answers so I will just be quiet and listen.

Stay around. This is a great board.