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beachbum · 04-16-2002, 05:09 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by luvluv:
[QB]The "back to be insulted later" bit was just tongue in cheek, folks. I like it when you insult me, that means I'm winning

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Just how is that? Are you one of those individuals that likes to "suffer for your faith"? You are not a true xian unless you are persecuted? Well, my friend if you want to be persecuted then you need to reevaluate this totally fucked up religion you are following.

DRFseven · 04-16-2002, 06:40 AM

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beachbum: Just how is that? Are you one of those individuals that likes to "suffer for your faith"? You are not a true xian unless you are persecuted? Well, my friend if you want to be persecuted then you need to reevaluate this totally fucked up religion you are following.

I think s/he means that throwing insults is a sign of not being able to come up with justification of position. Which is ironic, coming from luvluv.

Jubal · 04-16-2002, 09:26 AM

It's Yahweh, not "God." The Xians think they have a monopoly on the word. Actually, it's psychological weapon similar to their hijacking of all the Pagan holidays and their use of the names of pagan gods as the name for their satan, or "enemy." The Xian religion is a hoax and a dangerous cult, which is why it must be removed.

Theli · 04-16-2002, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by luvluv:
I answered you on the other thread, but I'll repeat it over here.

I have CONSISTENTLY said that God IS detectable BY FAITH. I HAVE detected God, BY FAITH. He communicates to me BY FAITH. It is logical for me to believe in God, because I have detected Him by the one means that He is detectable.

It does not make any sense to believe in something you have not detected. I don't do that. I believe in a God I have detected by faith.

The fact that He is not detectable scientifcally has no bearing on my beliefs. I have already detected Him by faith.

Why did you even write this?
What kind of relevance will this statement have on the question of gods existence?
You tend to use the word "faith" alot here, a word you have yet to give meaning to. What does the word "faith" mean?
I know the dictionary meaning, but that doesn't explain your belief. Nowhere else have I seen or heard that faith can actually detect something.
You need to be more specific.

[ April 16, 2002: Message edited by: Theli ]

Typhon · 04-16-2002, 03:45 PM

Faith eh? Well, I saw this ad on late night TV the other day. Only it sounded too good to be true...

Quote:

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I should have known. All I got was a charge on my MC, a Bible, and an empty box.

.T.

Boro Nut · 04-17-2002, 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by luvluv:
I may be changing my mind...

Good. But for christ's sake don't go for another American one. Or are you just looking for something more beige?

Boro Nut

Boro Nut · 04-17-2002, 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by excreationist:
All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Hey!! What about us lizards?
Yours sincerely
D Icke

babelfish · 04-17-2002, 06:38 AM

Typhon,

Loved your cool ad!

Eudaimonist · 04-17-2002, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by luvluv:
I have CONSISTENTLY said that God IS detectable BY FAITH. I HAVE detected God, BY FAITH. He communicates to me BY FAITH.

Okay, so you have faithdar. Is that like radar? Is it like a sense? If so, where are the sense organs of faith?

Koyaanisqatsi · 04-17-2002, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by luvluv:
I have CONSISTENTLY said that God IS detectable BY FAITH. I HAVE detected God, BY FAITH. He communicates to me BY FAITH. It is logical for me to believe in God, because I have detected Him by the one means that He is detectable.

That is, quite literally, nonsense. "Faith" is the firm belief in something for which there is no proof.

Kindly explain how a belief in something provides you with some sort of actionable detecting ability. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

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04-16-2002, 05:09 AM	#31
beachbum Beloved Deceased Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL Posts: 864	[QUOTE]Originally posted by luvluv: [QB]The "back to be insulted later" bit was just tongue in cheek, folks. I like it when you insult me, that means I'm winning [QB][quote] Just how is that? Are you one of those individuals that likes to "suffer for your faith"? You are not a true xian unless you are persecuted? Well, my friend if you want to be persecuted then you need to reevaluate this totally fucked up religion you are following.

04-16-2002, 09:26 AM	#33
Jubal Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC-US Posts: 98	It's Yahweh, not "God." The Xians think they have a monopoly on the word. Actually, it's psychological weapon similar to their hijacking of all the Pagan holidays and their use of the names of pagan gods as the name for their satan, or "enemy." The Xian religion is a hoax and a dangerous cult, which is why it must be removed.

04-17-2002, 06:38 AM	#38
babelfish Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Augusta, Maine, USA Posts: 2,046	Typhon, Loved your cool ad!

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